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Renewables: "talking 'bout my generation"

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  • Andy_WSM
    Andy_WSM Posts: 2,217 Forumite
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    Again, where have you got it attached??....;)

    Correctly - I'm of an engineering background. I know what's right & wrong.

    Besides, it doesn't move and nothing near it moves so the accuracy shouldn't change. Some evenings it claims my base load is over 700 watts, which it just isn't!
  • countryman_2
    countryman_2 Posts: 421 Forumite
    groovyf wrote: »
    Clearly everyone's Wattson transmitters are more reliable than mine! I had a replacement sent out, and just today it's gone the way of the other one... errant reading of an extra 300W or so usage. Unplug the cable from unit and it still thinks I'm using 300W.
    Maybe it simply doesn't like being powered by batteries outside in the meter wall cupboard.

    Am asking for a refund on it, which means I'll have a Wattson Anywhere to sell.

    (or maybe I'll just set the dashboard to "Generation only" and live with it, as I know what my appliances draw, and at least I can check the solar generation online - which was my main reason for purchase).



    I can't remember if I have already said this previously on this forum but a colleague had the Wattson monitor for his Solar PV installation and was unimpressed by the significant inaccuracies and inconsistencies it would report, he had it exchanged for a replacement which was similarly incorrect so got a full refund and now has a more basic monitor but has proven more accurate and reliable, I believe it may be the Geo Solar PV .

    :cool:
    4kw PV fitted 4th July 2014 (Green Energy NW £5600). WSW facing, 30 deg Pitch, Unshaded, Samil Solar River inverter, 16 Solar World Mono panels, Iboost on Immersion Heater. located in mid Lincolnshire.
  • groovyf
    groovyf Posts: 286 Forumite
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    Got the Geo Solo PV, but wanted more from my system (mainly online monitoring). If the Wattson really doesn't work out for me, I'll plump for the GEO Solo II as that at least has online monitoring of solar gen (if not import/export of 'leccy).
    Main reason for getting it was due to the one day a few weeks ago when the inverter didn't wake up.. and I didn't know this until 5pm after getting home from work (on what was a beautiful sunny day, making it a double blow!!).

    I reckon this is what's really wanted though: http://www.greenenergyoptions.co.uk/products-and-services/products/soloiii/
    No cable clamps, but properly wired solution for import/export and solar gen.
    4kWp system (Feb 2014) : 1.5 SW, 2.5 NE (16x Bisol BMO/250, Aurora Power-One UNO PVI-3.6 Inverter : pvoutput.org/list.jsp?id=29935
  • zeupater
    zeupater Posts: 5,390 Forumite
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    Andy_WSM wrote: »
    Correctly - I'm of an engineering background. I know what's right & wrong.

    Besides, it doesn't move and nothing near it moves so the accuracy shouldn't change. Some evenings it claims my base load is over 700 watts, which it just isn't!
    Hi

    Obviously you've checked the power factor of all of the electronic goodies (?) .... it could be that half of the reported power is simply something like an intermittent 35W circuit (/little used device) with a 0.1 power factor which any standard clamp based monitor would measure as 350VA, assume a power factor of 1 and therefore display as 350W ... our microwave is a great offender - when not in use the clock/standby circuit has a power factor of ~0.05! ....

    HTH
    Z
    "We are what we repeatedly do, excellence then is not an act, but a habit. " ...... Aristotle
    B)
  • Merlin139
    Merlin139 Posts: 7,259 Forumite
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    3.96 O's (15.75 kWh) Another spikey graph with lots of clouds moving over. Still about Est so cannot complain. Maybe off the the Pacific Island tomorrow!
    3.795 kWp Solar PV System. Capital of the Wolds

  • Andy_WSM
    Andy_WSM Posts: 2,217 Forumite
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    zeupater wrote: »
    Hi

    Obviously you've checked the power factor of all of the electronic goodies (?) .... it could be that half of the reported power is simply something like an intermittent 35W circuit (/little used device) with a 0.1 power factor which any standard clamp based monitor would measure as 350VA, assume a power factor of 1 and therefore display as 350W ... our microwave is a great offender - when not in use the clock/standby circuit has a power factor of ~0.05! ....

    HTH
    Z

    Both power factor & voltage change are an issue here.

    During the evening the incoming mains is ~236v, during the day we've had numerous substation shut downs at ~256v. There is a LOT of solar here and on a Sunny day in the summer the voltage climbs & climbs until the inevitable happens.

    Anyway, back to today... 4.13 O's (16.2 kWh)
  • countryman_2
    countryman_2 Posts: 421 Forumite
    Still chugging away at 30w but I'll call time on mine as it's just clicked over the 15kwh for the day so it's a very welcome 3.75 O's from sunny mid Linc's today :)
    4kw PV fitted 4th July 2014 (Green Energy NW £5600). WSW facing, 30 deg Pitch, Unshaded, Samil Solar River inverter, 16 Solar World Mono panels, Iboost on Immersion Heater. located in mid Lincolnshire.
  • mac2008
    mac2008 Posts: 266 Forumite
    Hi Mac, and welcome back. History tells me; as a guesstimate, I think you now owe me at least 10 'Big Macs'....eating-burger-2.gif...:D

    Today 4.48 O's, getting close to the illusive Hawaii. Not seen one in March since 9th of March 2014.....smiley-laughing021.gif......coffee.gif


    I expect so! Life has rather got in the way recently.


    A shade under 4 O's today - another good one ahead of submitting my Fit reading on the 20th
    My PV system: South West England, 10x 250Wp Trina Solar panels, Fronius Inverter, South facing roof, 35° pitch with no shading.
  • rosythfifer
    rosythfifer Posts: 92 Forumite
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    8 Kw. 3.33 Os for me today. Just north of Forth road bridge. Due south 30 pitch 9x270 trina panels.

    Not bad as they will have been covered in snow for some of that. Better was our 2Kwh total usage from this morning to now.
    2.43 from 9 x 270 Trina panels. Samil solar river 2600 inverter. Due South. 30 pitch. East coast of Scotland just North of Forth bridge.
  • Oscargrouch
    Oscargrouch Posts: 4,393 Forumite
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    Andy_WSM wrote: »
    Correctly - I'm of an engineering background. I know what's right & wrong.

    Besides, it doesn't move and nothing near it moves so the accuracy shouldn't change. Some evenings it claims my base load is over 700 watts, which it just isn't!

    Hmmm, would that be mechanical or electrical (engineering)??..Hmmm, your base load may be correct with the heating on all night... smiley-sw022.gif

    Today 4.24 O's; that's cool....smiley-cool19.gif didn't post earlier as didn't get back from work till 19:00; but checked a few Wattson results and knew there was no panic over the Spooning...:rotfl: ...coffee.gif
    2.5 kWp PV system, SSW facing, 45 Deg Roof. ABB Inverter, Monitor: 'Wattson'.
    Reg. for FIT Nov 2011. "It's not what you generate; it's how you use it that matters". One very clean Vauxhall Diesel Sri, £30.00 Road Tax: B)

    Definition of 'O's = kWh/kWp (kWh = your daily & accurate Generation figure) (kWp = the rated output of your PV Panels).
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