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Renewables: "talking 'bout my generation"

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  • tunnel
    tunnel Posts: 2,601 Forumite
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    Hi All,

    I`m looking to possible install PV solar panels and have been speaking to Martyn1981 and others on another MSE thread. Been advised to amble over to this thread so here i am!

    Just a general question if i may. Do the grid/energy company take all of the energy that you are unable to use yourself?

    Thanks

    SL

    One word "yes"...and they pay you to produce it....and they then pay you again to export it to them(only 50% though)...good init? :D
    2 kWp SEbE , 2kWp SSW & 2.5kWp NWbW.....in sunny North Derbyshire17.7kWh Givenergy battery added(for the power hungry kids)
  • Sirlaughalot
    Sirlaughalot Posts: 300 Forumite
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    edited 10 July 2013 at 10:15PM
    Had a local solar panel fitting company out a few days ago and the reviews are favourable about him. He is suppling a mono system manufactured by a japanese company called phonosolar anyone using these panels?

    Thanks

    SL
  • EricMears
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    Back to earth with a bump today - just 6.627 kWh

    FWIW, all forecasters agree tomorrow should be better.
    NE Derbyshire.4kWp S Facing 17.5deg slope (dormer roof).24kWh of Pylontech batteries with Lux controller BEV : Hyundai Ioniq5
  • Oscargrouch
    Oscargrouch Posts: 4,393 Forumite
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    edited 10 July 2013 at 10:56PM
    Had a local solar panel fitting company out a few days ago and the reviews are favourable about him. He is suppling a mono system manufactured by a japanese compny called phonosolar anyone using these panels?

    Thanks

    SL

    Price of install is the main factor before any comparison can be made.:)

    2.84 O's today, what a let down......:( Not saying a word Eric....:rotfl:

    Just checked the accuracy of my Wattson on generation logging: 98.87%; very happy with that over 37 days...:D
    2.5 kWp PV system, SSW facing, 45 Deg Roof. ABB Inverter, Monitor: 'Wattson'.
    Reg. for FIT Nov 2011. "It's not what you generate; it's how you use it that matters". One very clean Vauxhall Diesel Sri, £30.00 Road Tax: B)

    Definition of 'O's = kWh/kWp (kWh = your daily & accurate Generation figure) (kWp = the rated output of your PV Panels).
  • Price of install is the main factor before any comparison can be made.:)

    2.84 O's today, what a let down......:( Not saying a word Eric....:rotfl:

    Just goggled a video of the this company and for some group holding company that i have never heard of they sure look huge. don`t for one second believe this quote will be cheap but i will wait and see!

    http://www.phonosolar.com/

    SL
  • Martyn1981
    Martyn1981 Posts: 15,396 Forumite
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    Last 3 days got:
    8th - 31.4kWh - 5.63 Os
    9th - 31.9kWh - 5.72 Os
    10th - 30.4kWh - 5.45 Os

    That makes 6 30+'s in a row. Long term forecast (been correct lately) forecasting another 8 days of fine, fine weather. Still hot, still flushed!

    @Oscar, Sirlaughalot posted this yesterday on the solar panel guide thread:
    Are there any smart devices like immersun that can divert solar energy produced to specific devices?

    Thanks in advance

    I thought of you (and K66 and Eric(?)) with devices like the opti-plugs. I know they are not proportional devices like the Immersun/Solarimmersion, but thought this question was up your street, or down your bin!

    Mart.
    Mart. Cardiff. 8.72 kWp PV systems (2.12 SSW 4.6 ESE & 2.0 WNW). 20kWh battery storage. Two A2A units for cleaner heating. Two BEV's for cleaner driving.

    For general PV advice please see the PV FAQ thread on the Green & Ethical Board.
  • legoman62
    legoman62 Posts: 4,990 Forumite
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    Just checked the accuracy of my Wattson on generation logging: 98.87%; very happy with that over 37 days...:D
    Got my Wattson up and running. Will check it over next few weeks:D
    Another cloudy day here yesterday = 2.51 O's
    187 kWh for July so far
    16 Sanyo Hit 250s.4kWp SMA 3.8kWp inverter. SW roof. 28° pitch. Minimal shade. Nov 2011 install. Hybrid car. Ripple Kirk Hill. N.E Lincs Coast.
  • John_Pierpoint
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    Had a local solar panel fitting company out a few days ago and the reviews are favourable about him. He is suppling a mono system manufactured by a japanese company called phonosolar anyone using these panels?

    Thanks

    SL

    Does not sound very Japanese:
    Phono Solar Technology Co., Ltd., was founded by SUMEC Group Corporation, a member of the China National Machinery Industry Corporation (SINOMACH). Phono Solar is a leading brand in the renewable energy industry, producing high quality solar products since 2004. The Phono Solar brand has become synonymous with high performing, top quality photovoltaic panels and specializes in PV technology innovation, application and system development. Phono Solar panels have been installed in countries all over the world, including the USA, Germany, UK, Switzerland, South Korea, Israel, Czech Republic, Bulgaria, etc.,

    Mind you the days when the Chinese produced plastic flowers and bicycles are long gone.

    With their massive stockpile of dollars they are well on their way to imposing 24/7/365 neocolonialism on the "developing" world.
    That used to be Uncle Sam's role in the 1950's but the US is getting rattled:

    As a result of the regulatory review, the Company, Sinomach, PM&T and its affiliate Procon Resources Inc. ("PRI", and collectively with Sinomach and PM&T, "Procon") are withdrawing a Joint Voluntary Notice filed on April 1, 2013 with the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States ("CFIUS"), and have transmitted a letter of commitment (the "Letter") to CFIUS.
    Pursuant to the Letter, Lincoln and Procon have committed to CFIUS that Procon will, within 120 days after the date of the Order, divest its entire investment in Lincoln to a third party investor that is acceptable to CFIUS. If Procon, after making best efforts to divest its interest in Lincoln, is unable to divest all of its interest within 120 days, Lincoln and Procon can apply for an extension of up to 60 additional days, subject to approval by CFIUS. The Company understands that the terms of the Letter will form the basis of an order to be issued by CFIUS (the "Order").
  • Sirlaughalot
    Sirlaughalot Posts: 300 Forumite
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    edited 11 July 2013 at 3:47PM
    Does not sound very Japanese:
    Phono Solar Technology Co., Ltd., was founded by SUMEC Group Corporation, a member of the China National Machinery Industry Corporation (SINOMACH). Phono Solar is a leading brand in the renewable energy industry, producing high quality solar products since 2004. The Phono Solar brand has become synonymous with high performing, top quality photovoltaic panels and specializes in PV technology innovation, application and system development. Phono Solar panels have been installed in countries all over the world, including the USA, Germany, UK, Switzerland, South Korea, Israel, Czech Republic, Bulgaria, etc.,

    Mind you the days when the Chinese produced plastic flowers and bicycles are long gone.

    With their massive stockpile of dollars they are well on their way to imposing 24/7/365 neocolonialism on the "developing" world.
    That used to be Uncle Sam's role in the 1950's but the US is getting rattled:

    As a result of the regulatory review, the Company, Sinomach, PM&T and its affiliate Procon Resources Inc. ("PRI", and collectively with Sinomach and PM&T, "Procon") are withdrawing a Joint Voluntary Notice filed on April 1, 2013 with the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States ("CFIUS"), and have transmitted a letter of commitment (the "Letter") to CFIUS.
    Pursuant to the Letter, Lincoln and Procon have committed to CFIUS that Procon will, within 120 days after the date of the Order, divest its entire investment in Lincoln to a third party investor that is acceptable to CFIUS. If Procon, after making best efforts to divest its interest in Lincoln, is unable to divest all of its interest within 120 days, Lincoln and Procon can apply for an extension of up to 60 additional days, subject to approval by CFIUS. The Company understands that the terms of the Letter will form the basis of an order to be issued by CFIUS (the "Order").

    Hi John,

    Look an incredible big company for someone i have never heard of. manufacturer of marine super tankers, marine wind power installations. power station builders and a true global power WOW!! Reminds me of Daewoo hope they don`t meet a similar ending!

    SL
  • John_Pierpoint
    John_Pierpoint Posts: 8,401 Forumite
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    edited 11 July 2013 at 4:48PM
    China is an amazing place, in some ways it reminds me of Japan in the early 1970's, the difference being that the USA political economists had a chance to impose on Japan ideas that could not be achieved in the checks and balances of the USA democracy.

    China is loosely split into two nations, those who subsist in the country, who they call "farmers" and those who are part of the 21st century living in towns. There is an internal border between the two Chinas.

    There were some years at the turn of the 21st century when more people migrated into the mega cities in a year than migrated into USA in the whole of the 19th century.

    I get the impression that the Chinese are far from the Japanese in terms of social cohesion but they do have an amazing propensity to save - so the economy could implode and I would not like to be the doorman of there is a bank run; but for the moment their debt pyramid seems fairly stable.
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