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Renewables: "talking 'bout my generation"

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  • Oscargrouch
    Oscargrouch Posts: 4,393 Forumite
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    edited 21 January 2013 at 3:03PM
    It would be interesting to know how much power was consumed by the inverter trying to lock onto that level of generation?

    From the 'horses mouth' so to speak: The Aurora inverters do not use any AC power, they start up using DC power as soon as the PV produce enough for start up. The reason the gen meter light stays on red, is that no Watts are being produced (initially). Until at least one W is produced the red light stays on, on the GM. After this, the light goes on to register 10 watt per flash. Hence 10 flashes = 100w. (I am not going to stand there and count) On this basis, yesterday, my GM light flashed 10 times - all day. As of writing this, Inverter continues to try and wake up, but cannot manage it as input is too low, as is the Sun, it does not realise that the panels are covered with snow! (both messages come up on the screen, but not anything about 'snow') If the above is true of other makes of Inverter; is not known. End of Anorak report..:D
    2.5 kWp PV system, SSW facing, 45 Deg Roof. ABB Inverter, Monitor: 'Wattson'.
    Reg. for FIT Nov 2011. "It's not what you generate; it's how you use it that matters". One very clean Vauxhall Diesel Sri, £30.00 Road Tax: B)

    Definition of 'O's = kWh/kWp (kWh = your daily & accurate Generation figure) (kWp = the rated output of your PV Panels).
  • edwink
    edwink Posts: 3,003 Forumite
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    Your post was very useful Oscar. Thanks for that!!!

    We have generated every day although not a lot. I have found a way of getting the snow off the panels without touching them. I light the stove in the kitchen (chimney stack goes through the centre of the house). The heat around the chimney melts the snow on our top six panels. The lower 4 panels are on an extension roof. We have 6 skylight windows along the length of this roof and the panels are just above the guttering. So we open all six of the skylights by an inch or so and within a couple of hours the snow has melted on these panels too. I found this out by mistake by opening one of the windows as it was so hot in the kitchen and later we noticed that the snow had cleared from 2 of the panels. Also we light the stove in the living room which heats the hot water tank that is in the loft below the upper six panels. This stove also heats 10 radiators. So house nice and warm, with fresh air too, lots of hotwater, no gas bill and enough leccy for the inverter. Can't be bad!!!

    Edwink x :T
    *3.36 kWp solar panel system,10 x Ultima & 4 x Panasonic solar panels, Solaredge Inverter *Biomass boiler stove for cooking, hot water & heating *2000ltr Rainwater harvesting system for loo flushing *Hybrid Toyota Auris car *RIP Pingu, Hoppy, Ginger & Biscuit *Hens & Ducks* chat thread. http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5282209
  • From the 'horses mouth' so to speak: The Aurora inverters do not use any AC power, they start up using DC power as soon as the PV produce enough for start up. The reason the gen meter light stays on red, is that no Watts are being produced (initially). Until at least one W is produced the red light stays on, on the GM. After this, the light goes on to register 10 watt per flash. Hence 10 flashes = 100w. (I am not going to stand there and count) On this basis, yesterday, my GM light flashed 10 times - all day. As of writing this, Inverter continues to try and wake up, but cannot manage it as input is too low, as is the Sun, it does not realise that the panels are covered with snow! (both messages come up on the screen, but not anything about 'snow') If the above is true of other makes of Inverter; is not known. End of Anorak report..:D

    On my meters, I pretty well certain it is one red flash per watt, ie 17 flashes per minute is about the extra you get from turning on a 1 kW kettle.
  • shafeeq
    shafeeq Posts: 973 Forumite
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    Another FAT zero. doing I get a record for most zeros
  • Martyn1981
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    Lots of zero's on various systems. Decided to 'Meerkat it' out the Velux this afternoon and clear the 2.4 system, as the other 2 were clear and ticking away. Haven't missed much 1.8kWh over the last 4 days. Oh well, at least it looks pretty out!

    Mart.
    Mart. Cardiff. 8.72 kWp PV systems (2.12 SSW 4.6 ESE & 2.0 WNW). 20kWh battery storage. Two A2A units for cleaner heating. Two BEV's for cleaner driving.

    For general PV advice please see the PV FAQ thread on the Green & Ethical Board.
  • tunnel
    tunnel Posts: 2,601 Forumite
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    Martyn1981 wrote: »
    Lots of zero's on various systems. Decided to 'Meerkat it' out the Velux this afternoon and clear the 2.4 system, as the other 2 were clear and ticking away. Haven't missed much 1.8kWh over the last 4 days. Oh well, at least it looks pretty out!

    Mart.

    Looking at the forecast for Cardiff for the next 24hrs mate you'd better get ready for a few more zero's:eek:
    2 kWp SEbE , 2kWp SSW & 2.5kWp NWbW.....in sunny North Derbyshire17.7kWh Givenergy battery added(for the power hungry kids)
  • 0.08 kWh over two days - following light snow over night.
    Sun forecast tomorrow.
    Then more of the same greyness with snow showers for the rest of the week?
    :mad:
  • legoman62
    legoman62 Posts: 4,981 Forumite
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    edited 22 January 2013 at 12:32PM
    After clearing the snow from my panels, a massive 0.49kWh today
    The [STRIKE]dream[/STRIKE] nightmare continues:D
    16 Sanyo Hit 250s.4kWp SMA 3.8kWp inverter. SW roof. 28° pitch. Minimal shade. Nov 2011 install. Hybrid car. Ripple Kirk Hill. N.E Lincs Coast.
  • phsci
    phsci Posts: 70 Forumite
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    edited 21 January 2013 at 9:13PM
    My 3.8 kWp array consists of two rows of 10 panels arranged in portrait fashion, each row connected as a separate string into a 3.7 kW inverter. Today, the snow had accumulated at the bottom of the lower string, having slumped from the upper string and the upper part of the lower string, obscuring less than 20% of the lower string. At about 2.45 this afternoon I got out the ladders and dislodged the accumulated snow, and just about doubled the output. The <20% shading had sabotaged all the (albeit meagre) production from my lower string. See this graph (the y axis is in watts):

    Snowonsolarpanels_zps4e255134.jpg
  • k66
    k66 Posts: 354 Forumite
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    0.531 kWh today, they looked cute with snow on them but better without.
    :hello:
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