Help for my sister please

rach!_3

now 2 of you are being insulting.

rosysparkle

prudryden wrote:

Are you saying that you know a number of LLs who don't bother to get gas certs? I find that incredible. There may be LLs who are uneducated, low intelligence, or non street smart - but to have a LL who is all three is bizarre!

I have today organised a contractor to gain access to a property to do a gas check (with the correct notice and the tenant's permission) because the landlord, who is a solicitor, has been promising us that he will get the gas cert done - he does his own repairs - for a couple of weeks now and hasn't done so. It looks like we will have to stand to the cost and I may disinstruct this property, but as I told the landlord in a frank exchange of views on Wednesday, I don't intend to go to jail for him or any other landlord.

I talked to our legal advisers and they are getting more and more queries from agents who are struggling to get landlords to renew gas certs. We don't put a tenant in a property without one, obviously, but landlords who employ their own contractors sometimes have a habit of letting these things slide when it comes to renewing the cert.

Gorgeous_George

prudryden wrote:

I think Rach is already fairly assertive - maybe some rationality training instead.

Aggession and assertiveness are two entirely different traits.

rach! wrote:

i find that insulting actually
and i have had no contatc with this woman my sister has believe me if i had contatc with her i would have had it sorted.
aggresive only if im pushed just like anyone, but talking to me like im a bloody idiot is just down right insulting and i dont think its fair at all

Like I said, I apologise if I am wrong. I do not intend to insult you nor do I wish to talk down to you. I could argue that your response is aggressive and unhelpful.

I don't know you at all and so I base my assessment on a few paragraphs.

You need to strike up a dialogue with the landlord. Only by understanding each other's needs can there be any hope of a satisfactory outcome.

Honest rach!, I am only trying to be helpful.

Be good.



GG

prudryden

rosysparkle wrote:

I have today organised a contractor to gain access to a property to do a gas check (with the correct notice and the tenant's permission) because the landlord, who is a solicitor, has been promising us that he will get the gas cert done - he does his own repairs - for a couple of weeks now and hasn't done so. It looks like we will have to stand to the cost and I may disinstruct this property, but as I told the landlord in a frank exchange of views on Wednesday, I don't intend to go to jail for him or any other landlord.

I talked to our legal advisers and they are getting more and more queries from agents who are struggling to get landlords to renew gas certs. We don't put a tenant in a property without one, obviously, but landlords who employ their own contractors sometimes have a habit of letting these things slide when it comes to renewing the cert.

That is incredible. Even though I am not surprised about the solicitor. How can a person have the wherewithal to establish a business, monitor all the rules and regulations, keep track of all the tax regulations, maintain a repair and maintenance schedule, maintain files for expenses as tax deductions, pay self-employed NI, maintain building and liability insurance and all the other things required to run a successful business and, YET, not do a simple task that can have such mind blowing repercussions.

clutton_2

i have had several tenants come to me from landlords who dont provide gas certs, its quite common - and there is no way it can be policed as far as i can see - the 2004 Act does not seem to have an "enforcers" who take action on this matter.

prudryden

clutton wrote:

i have had several tenants come to me from landlords who dont provide gas certs, its quite common - and there is no way it can be policed as far as i can see - the 2004 Act does not seem to have an "enforcers" who take action on this matter.

I guess the enforcers will come out in force if someone dies, like happened a few years ago in Putney.

franklee

Gorgeous_George wrote:

There are also many BTL, small-time LLs (one or two properties). These peole do not have the massive resources available to them that the Housing Associations and councils have. Putting right things that are their responsibility can cause them temporary hardship. Income from rent does not cover the time and effort that they have to put into arranging repairs, let alone the time to prepare accounts for the taxman.

None of the LL's burdens listed above are of concern to the tenant. It seems that some tenants believe that 100% of the rent feeds the LL's thirst for foreign holidays and boob jobs.

If only people could begin to understand the needs of others and treat people as they would wish to be treated themselves.

Pardon me but what exactly are you inferring here?

You are dead right that the LL's burdens aren't of concern to the tenant. The tenant is paying for a service and the landlord should deliver it. It matters not if the landlord has profits or if doing repairs causes him hardship, it's his responsibility to do the repairs and if the business isn't viable then tough.

I mean if you go to Tesco to buy a tin of beans you would not accept out of date or dented produce because the manager is having a bad day would you? You would demand and expect to get undamaged produce that you are paying good money for.

Who amongst the landlords here would accept paying for a service and only half receiving it because the business supposed to be delivering said fulfilling their obligations would cause them hardship? It beggars belief.

rach!_3

thank you franklee

Gorgeous_George

franklee wrote:

Pardon me but what exactly are you inferring here?

You are dead right that the LL's burdens aren't of concern to the tenant.

That is what I said, is it not?

I think, in this case, it may be possible that the LL is not happy that the tenant has not maintained the property in a satisfactory condition. The damp problem has more than likely been caused by the tenant being a bit thick. By not providing suitable ventilation and drying clothes inside, this tenant has probably caused many £££s worth of damage to the landlord's property. Many rooms may well need to be redecorated and the cost could easily outweigh any deposit that may have been paid.

rach! asked for advice but has chosen to argue, rather aggressively, when the advice was not what she had hoped for. Yes, as stated many times, the LL is responsible for providing room heating and hot water. For whatever reason (and I still don't know why), the heating system(s) has failed. If the aggression evident in this thread is similar to the way correspondence with the LL has been then I am not at all surprised that the matter is not being dealt with as rach! would wish.

Maybe, just maybe, it would be better for all concerned if rach!'s sister found somewhere else to live. I know that i wouldn't want to be her landlord.

Good news! This! is! my! final! post! on! this! thread!



GG

prudryden

GG - don't leave please. You're comments have been enlightening and enjoyable.