Help for my sister please

prudryden

Gorgeous_George wrote:

rach

To add to my previous post, the LL is responsible for the buildings and I insure my BTL accordingly. This is necessary because I have a mortgage. In the absence of a mortgage I could choose not to insure the buildings. My buildings cover also covers MY contents and potential loss of rent under certain circumstances (not sure what circumstances as I am highly unlikely to claim for fear of increased premiums). My insurance does not cover damage caused by the tenant.

Usually, the tenant is required to insure the contents.

As pointed out by others, nothing revealed so far constitutes an insurance claim.

Whilst I pay for buildings insurance and the optional electrical safety certificate, you can be assured that I recover these costs as part of the rent.

My BTL does not have gas at the moment but gas safety certificates are not negotiable. The LL may have one without your sister knowing but I do know a number of LLs, some with many houses, who do not bother. Shocking.



GG

Are you saying that you know a number of LLs who don't bother to get gas certs? I find that incredible. There may be LLs who are uneducated, low intelligence, or non street smart - but to have a LL who is all three is bizarre!

Gorgeous_George

prudryden wrote:

Are you saying that you know a number of LLs who don't bother to get gas certs? I find that incredible. There may be LLs who are uneducated, low intelligence, or non street smart - but to have a LL who is all three is bizarre!

I cannot disagree with you prudryden. I have told them that they could be jailed for manslaughter if there was a problem but to no avail.

Personally, I believe that the gas supplier should be responsible for ensuring the checks are done. It's sad that there seems to be no policing of the requirement on LLs.



GG

rach!_3

clutton wrote:

rach! - why are you SO angry ? - coming on here and being so abusive and rude is really not doing your sisters cause any good at all.

If you consider Nellys advice to "stop paying rent" is good, then god help your sister.

angry??
because all you have done is try stick up for this cow of a woman, who may i said had her OH come on the phone today to tell me sister to "SHUT UP" because she was stating stuff to her that we all knew from websites that are legal etc
and yes i consider "stop paying rent" good advice, even more so now. Why??
because she has messed them about so much today that they want to move anyway, so if she kicks em out they dont care and yes i know she can take em to court, but we belive she has circumstance to with hold rent as they are going to CAB and seeing if its within their rights to have stuff done that she wont, because she has told them no 1 will do it without her consent cos its illegal, can anyone tell me the score on this please???

thesaint

Ask your sister to get three quotes for the work, then tell the landlady to get the work done within 7 days, then get the contractor with the lowest quote to do the work and take the landlady to court for the money.
In the time it takes to do this, her landlady will have probably done it anyway.

You may not like the advice you've been given but most of it is correct.
Witholding rent is a good strategy if she requires evicting.

Check the shelter website for advice if you don't like what you are hearing here.

http://england.shelter.org.uk/advice/advice-2916.cfm

rach!_3

well thank you, thesaint and my problem isnt the advice i have already been looking on that site btw its the way its been put across
i dont have a problem with advice i can take advice, i ahve a problem with attitude

Gorgeous_George

Rach

I feel as though the 'apparent' lack of help from your sister's LL is probably due to you/your sister's actions and your poor communication skills.

Many tenants see the LL as the enemy, just as many people who go overdrawn at the bank or fail to pay their credit cards on time, see the banks and credit card companies as the enemy. They fail to see that the LL is providing a service that they themselves have asked for and have agreed to pay for - iaw the tenancy agreement.

In the good old days before Maggie sold the council's houses to buy more votes, rent arrears were huge and councils had many difficulties in recovering these arrears. Often arrears were written off and the country's good, law-abiding folk funded the shortfall.

Today, housing associations own most of the former council houses. Housing Associations have less problems recovering rent. There are also many BTL, small-time LLs (one or two properties). These peole do not have the massive resources available to them that the Housing Associations and councils have. Putting right things that are their responsibility can cause them temporary hardship. Income from rent does not cover the time and effort that they have to put into arranging repairs, let alone the time to prepare accounts for the taxman.

None of the LL's burdens listed above are of concern to the tenant. It seems that some tenants believe that 100% of the rent feeds the LL's thirst for foreign holidays and boob jobs.

If only people could begin to understand the needs of others and treat people as they would wish to be treated themselves.

Rach, suggest your sister moves out. She may find her next LL provides the things that are his/her responsibility. But please, leave on good terms and with the rent paid. Only then can your sister hold her head high in the knowledge that she has done the right thing.

EDIT to add: Do not confuse information from the Internet with the Law. Many posters (myself included at times) get things wrong despite their best intentions. Some posters simply fuel people's misconceptions. Possibly because they are trolls.

Best wishes



GG

rach!_3

could you explain what you mean by

I feel as though the 'apparent' lack of help from your sister's LL is probably due to you/your sister's actions and your poor communication skills.

please??
we dont have poor communication me and my sister as soooo close, dont think you can get closer without being conjoined tbh, so i dont trully undertsnad this statement

Gorgeous_George

I refer to your (and/or your sister's) communications with her landlord. I am guessing that the communication is less than ideal. You seem to me to be rather agressive and you could use some assertiveness training. I apologise if I am wrong. I know that written messages on fora and in emails can seem short and aggressive when it was not really meant to be so.

I did a quick search on Google and found this test which I found interesting. It costs nothing to complete and I didn't even register.



GG

prudryden

Gorgeous_George wrote:

I refer to your (and/or your sister's) communications with her landlord. I am guessing that the communication is less than ideal. You seem to me to be rather agressive and you could use some assertiveness training. I apologise if I am wrong. I know that written messages on fora and in emails can seem short and aggressive when it was not really meant to be so.

I did a quick search on Google and found this test which I found interesting. It costs nothing to complete and I didn't even register.



GG

I think Rach is already fairly assertive - maybe some rationality training instead.

rach!_3

i find that insulting actually
and i have had no contatc with this woman my sister has believe me if i had contatc with her i would have had it sorted.
aggresive only if im pushed just like anyone, but talking to me like im a bloody idiot is just down right insulting and i dont think its fair at all