Another winning bid cancelled

mattyprice4004

mad_dr wrote: »

Trouble is, I suppose there HAS to be a way to cancel the bids and close the auction at the last minute for those exceedingly rare times when the seller is just wrapping up that priceless Ming vase and drops it on the floor. It's this that people tend to abuse.

If eBay was happy to relinquish a tiny bit of their profit and allow reserves to be set for free, you'd see 99% of examples of this practice stop overnight. I can't see that happening, though.

eBay doesn't let me end any items within the last 12 hours, so it'd appear they've closed the loophole.

kezza1234

goater78 wrote: »

to get round the reserve problem i just get a mate to bid up what I would want the reserve to be. There is a chance he/she will win but at least i don't lose the item for too small amount of money!

Erm... this is against Ebay policy too...

Shill bidding is when sellers—or someone they know—place a bid on their item to drive the price up. This is called artificial bidding. Often the people placing bids have certain information about the seller's item that other shoppers aren't aware of. To make sure no one gets an unfair advantage, shill bidding is prohibited on eBay.

People who know the seller – such as family members, flatmates, or employees – can't bid on that seller's items, but they can use options like Buy It Now that don't involve bidding. Sellers with employees have to make sure their staff are aware of this policy and what the consequences are for breaking the rules.

System

kezza1234 wrote: »

Erm... this is against Ebay policy too...

Shill bidding is when sellers—or someone they know—place a bid on their item to drive the price up. This is called artificial bidding. Often the people placing bids have certain information about the seller's item that other shoppers aren't aware of. To make sure no one gets an unfair advantage, shill bidding is prohibited on eBay.

People who know the seller – such as family members, flatmates, or employees – can't bid on that seller's items, but they can use options like Buy It Now that don't involve bidding. Sellers with employees have to make sure their staff are aware of this policy and what the consequences are for breaking the rules.

Well of course its against Ebay policy as they want you to pay extra to get the reserve price listing. However if they don't know this is what i've done they aren't going to do anything about it!

pickledtink

goater78 wrote: »

to get round the reserve problem i just get a mate to bid up what I would want the reserve to be. There is a chance he/she will win but at least i don't lose the item for too small amount of money!

So basically you cheat. Nice.
Just the kind of seller we all want to avoid on ebay.

Azari

pickledtink wrote: »

So basically you cheat. Nice.
Just the kind of seller we all want to avoid on ebay.

Well, provided his friend bids early he's only cheated fleabay.

And if there was ever a company that deserved to be cheated, it would be fleabay.

System

pickledtink wrote: »

So basically you cheat. Nice.
Just the kind of seller we all want to avoid on ebay.

No i don't cheat, I just refuse to pay extra to set a reserve price on my bid. There is no difference to doing this than there is setting a reserve price.

I am happy as I have got the price I wanted, the buyer is happy as they have got the item for a price they have bid on. The only people unhappy are Ebay who have not made extra money by me setting a reserve limit.

I am more than happy for the losing party in this transaction to be Ebay.

pickledtink

goater78 wrote: »

No i don't cheat, I just refuse to pay extra to set a reserve price on my bid. There is no difference to doing this than there is setting a reserve price.

I am happy as I have got the price I wanted, the buyer is happy as they have got the item for a price they have bid on. The only people unhappy are Ebay who have not made extra money by me setting a reserve limit.

I am more than happy for the losing party in this transaction to be Ebay.

Each to their own but as a seller and buyer on ebay my take is that if you don't want to abide by the sites rules don't use it to sell your stuff. Also shill bidding is a pain. If somebody wants a minimum amount for their item I want an idea before wasting any time watching or bidding on it as there may be something similiar finishing earlier which is genuinely up for the starting price listed.

I'd deliberately avoid a seller I knew was doing this frankly.

System

pickledtink wrote: »

Each to their own but as a seller and buyer on ebay my take is that if you don't want to abide by the sites rules don't use it to sell your stuff. Also shill bidding is a pain. If somebody wants a minimum amount for their item I want an idea before wasting any time watching or bidding on it as there may be something similiar finishing earlier which is genuinely up for the starting price listed.

I'd deliberately avoid a seller I knew was doing this frankly.

Fair enough. However I have never had any complaints and have 100% positive feedback therefore I will continue on my merry way!

bcl999

mattyprice4004 wrote: »

eBay doesn't let me end any items within the last 12 hours, so it'd appear they've closed the loophole.

This is what I thought but reading posts above, it doesn't appear to be the case. Is there maybe one rule for business sellers and anotehr for private?

techspec

goater78 wrote: »

No i don't cheat, I just refuse to pay extra to set a reserve price on my bid. There is no difference to doing this than there is setting a reserve price.

I am happy as I have got the price I wanted, the buyer is happy as they have got the item for a price they have bid on. The only people unhappy are Ebay who have not made extra money by me setting a reserve limit.

I am more than happy for the losing party in this transaction to be Ebay.

The buyer is bidding against a fake bidder - so the buyer is the loser.

Also - its illegal and a jailable offence.