At the moment could someone stay on JSA for 4 years?

marybelle01

falko89 wrote: »

I've not applied for a job now in 6 weeks, its not looking very promising is it.

Jobs are always scarcer between December and March. Nobody is saying it's easy but if you are heading down the path towards the point of giving up after only nine weeks, then with that attitude you will have reached the point by six months, never mind four years. I have been "out of work" many times as the nature of the work that I do means that employment has always been erratic. I have never got into the habit of thinking that a job is secure or for life. So when I am between jobs, needs must. I do whatever work is available, and that includes low paid jobs, jobs I don't want to do or that don't interest me and jobs that I don't think I am suited for. If you are out of work then that is the attitude you have to approach it with. Deciding what you can't do, what you aren't suited to without at least trying, and what you won't do, gets you nowhere.

falko89

marybelle01 wrote: »

Jobs are always scarcer between December and March. Nobody is saying it's easy but if you are heading down the path towards the point of giving up after only nine weeks, then with that attitude you will have reached the point by six months, never mind four years. I have been "out of work" many times as the nature of the work that I do means that employment has always been erratic. I have never got into the habit of thinking that a job is secure or for life. So when I am between jobs, needs must. I do whatever work is available, and that includes low paid jobs, jobs I don't want to do or that don't interest me and jobs that I don't think I am suited for. If you are out of work then that is the attitude you have to approach it with. Deciding what you can't do, what you aren't suited to without at least trying, and what you won't do, gets you nowhere.

You are missing the point here, that is what I am doing, I am not being fussy, even that low paid work is not available, do you think I really want to work in Tesco's? No but it was a job and would do until I found something else.

gibson123

I see lots of unemployed people and the ones that end up very long term unemployed are generally (not in all cases) those who take the rejections to heart and start to lose their confidence. It is almost like they wear a "your not going to employ me anyway sign". it is incredibly difficult but if you lose hope then you will be longer term unemployed.

I hope you never get to this stage, and there are things that you can do to stop it happening, but it is about keeping into a work routine, and keeping busy. The fact you are up and about at this time in the morning tells me that you are definetly not a "no hoper" and the chances are you will get a job soon.

Can i give you a bit of advice Falko..... although it is great you have sent out lots of application forms, this is probably the worst way to jobsearch, we call it the scattergram approach, basically throwing far and wide and hoping one hits, it is generally people who are very targeted and spend a lot of time on just one application that get the interviews. You need to examine the information given out and make sure you are fitting your skills to the job specification. If you dont meet the spec don't bother, it's a waste of your time and the time of the recruiter. Good luck I hope you get something soon.

falko89

gibson123 wrote: »

I see lots of unemployed people and the ones that end up very long term unemployed are generally (not in all cases) those who take the rejections to heart and start to lose their confidence. It is almost like they wear a "your not going to employ me anyway sign". it is incredibly difficult but if you lose hope then you will be longer term unemployed.

I hope you never get to this stage, and there are things that you can do to stop it happening, but it is about keeping into a work routine, and keeping busy. The fact you are up and about at this time in the morning tells me that you are definetly not a "no hoper" and the chances are you will get a job soon.

Can i give you a bit of advice Falko..... although it is great you have sent out lots of application forms, this is probably the worst way to jobsearch, we call it the scattergram approach, basically throwing far and wide and hoping one hits, it is generally people who are very targeted and spend a lot of time on just one application that get the interviews. You need to examine the information given out and make sure you are fitting your skills to the job specification. If you dont meet the spec don't bother, it's a waste of your time and the time of the recruiter. Good luck I hope you get something soon.

You speak alot of sense, I am generally up around 6/7am 7 days a week out of interest:D I think people get desperate and just apply for anything, employers probably see right through this and think "This guy is just after a job until he gets something better" Thanks for the advice.

gibson123

Thanks for the compliment, if you want to PM me your personal circumstances, your CV and your career aspirations I would be happy to give you some specific advice off forum. I am qualified to do this (NOT jobcentre).

marybelle01

falko89 wrote: »

I set up to jobs within 10 mile radius .....

falko89 wrote: »

I see a lot of tele sales job, Its the type of thing you need to have the gift of the gab for, someone shy and reserved like myself wouldn't be cut out for it.

falko89 wrote: »

You are missing the point here, that is what I am doing, I am not being fussy.....

Really? Aren't you? You aren't suited to tele-sales although you have never tried it. And the job has to be within 10 miles - ok, fair enough for low paid work I suppose, but even a bike will get you further than that and with no fuel costs....

donnajunkie

moneysaversupremo wrote: »

I'm personally only too thankful that they all say "must have own car" (as I don't:D) so couldnt even ask for them:D.

you couldnt be sure that you wouldnt still get refered for such a job.

ILW

marybelle01 wrote: »

Really? Aren't you? You aren't suited to tele-sales although you have never tried it. And the job has to be within 10 miles - ok, fair enough for low paid work I suppose, but even a bike will get you further than that and with no fuel costs....

I have noticed that in Falco's posts. He does seem to have a lot of reasons why not for jobs ranging from care to sales.

falko89

ILW wrote: »

I have noticed that in Falco's posts. He does seem to have a lot of reasons why not for jobs ranging from care to sales.

Social anxiety as I have mentioned before, and the care jobs require a driving licence around here anyway. Dealing with people directly I can't do. I applied for Tesco's only because it was a night job and no one would be around.

ILW

falko89 wrote: »

Social anxiety as I have mentioned before, and the care jobs require a driving licence around here anyway. Dealing with people directly I can't do. I applied for Tesco's only because it was a night job and no one would be around.

Most jobs involve a certain amount of anxiety, I know they have for me.

Many care jobs are in homes and do not require a driving license, have you checked?