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  • paddedjohn
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    mikey72 wrote: »
    I think people who get punctures should have their licence revoked personally.

    thats me off the road then;)
    Be Alert..........Britain needs lerts.
  • agrinnall
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    paddedjohn wrote: »
    personally id be happy if the op had their licence taken away for good, writing off 2 cars within 2 months doesnt sound good to me.

    Where is there anything that says the OP has written off 2 cars at all, let alone within 2 months?
  • paddedjohn
    paddedjohn Posts: 7,512 Forumite
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    agrinnall wrote: »
    Where is there anything that says the OP has written off 2 cars at all, let alone within 2 months?

    read through their other posts, motability car written off, own mini written off and still only 19/20 yrs of age.
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  • I think the problem is not slowing down, but slowing down WHILE going round the bend. When you brake it causes weight to transfer to the front of the car. In a light car with a heavy engine (diesel engines are generally heavier than petrol), and depending on the rear suspension set-up on the car, you can actually lose control of the car fairly easily by doing it.

    I had a Peugeot 306 HDI a long time ago, a light car with a heavy diesel engine in the front, and an odd suspension set-up in the rear. You could quite easily make the car swap ends just by going round a corner or big roundabout a little fast and then hitting the brakes. I managed to spin the car through 180 degrees once thanks to a combination of rain and fuel on the road!

    So moral of the story is slow down BEFORE the corner, while you are going in a straight line.

    The above situation (called lift-off oversteer) should be much less pronounced in modern cars which have proper coil spring and shock absorbers instead of torsion bars, and especially electronic stability control (ESP), as I've found in my current car it's near impossible to produce the same lift-off oversteer situation with the electronic driver aids active.
  • reeac
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    Go to the assessment..they put me on one of those static rigs to time my reactions, left better than right (right side is affected) so go out in a automaticwith left foot acclerator

    Now- firstly, am I the only one who slows down round SHARP, unknown bends??? Apparently so.

    Anyway- outcome from assesment. DVLA takes my manual licence, has issued me with a provisional for 3 months training in a left foot acclerator auto and



    Thanks[/QUOTE]

    Do static rigs REALLY have left foot accelerators?
  • Lum
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    One would hope that a rig designed for testing people who have a variety of disabilities would be able to be configured in a variety of different layouts, allowing them to find the best configuration for each person who uses it.
  • s_b
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    Ive never seen a left foot auto car so its got to be major fabrication to the standard pedals unless it was done by hand controls but op says left foot.
    In my opinion and no offence the kind of people that do indeed brake in a corner and usually in the wrong gear too have absolutely no idea about vehicle dynamics and are an accident waiting to happen.
    I always equate it to the woman who told me her brakes had failed when she asked me to lok at her crunched vehicle,she didnt understand that the reason she crashed was because she had skidded into the other car and her brakes actually worked perfectly,she had had this car about 5 days having previously crashed her other car

    Makes one think..............
  • Lum
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    edited 3 March 2012 at 6:37PM
    Problem is, things like vehicle dynamics, even the simple stuff like not braking in the middle of a corner is not even touched upon in the driving test. This is part of the reason why so many youngsters go on to then stack it on a country road within a few years of passing.

    Also, these days, making a left foot auto should be pretty easy as the accelerator on modern cars is drive by wire, so you'd just have to move the brake pedal and redirect the brake hoses, then just bolt the accelerator into the place where the brake pedal was and maybe extend the wiring by a few inches.

    Even when the accelerator was cable driven, it shouldn't be too hard. I'd wager that fitting a wheelchair lift is likely more work.
  • s_b
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    Lum wrote: »
    Problem is, things like vehicle dynamics, even the simple stuff like not braking in the middle of a corner is not even touched upon in the driving test. This is part of the reason why so many youngsters go on to then stack it on a country road within a few years of passing.

    Also, these days, making a left foot auto should be pretty easy as the accelerator on modern cars is drive by wire, so you'd just have to move the brake pedal and redirect the brake hose, then just bolt the accelerator into the place where the brake pedal was and maybe extend the wiring by a few inches.

    Even when the accelerator was cable driven, it shouldn't be too hard. I'd wager that fitting a wheelchair lift is likely more work.



    fly by wire so just put a bit of extra cable in eh?
    and move a brake hose
    i dont often do roll on floor giffs but this needs one:D
  • DCFC79
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    edited 3 March 2012 at 5:39PM


    Now- firstly, am I the only one who slows down round SHARP, unknown bends??? Apparently so.


    Your meant to slow down before corners whether sharp or not and known or unknown corners because A you dont know whats round the corner and B if there is anything round the corner you give yourself a chance to react to the situation (as opposed to those y racers who speed round the corner without thinking whats round the corner). But you do the right thing which is good.
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