Work for benefits?

Arg

It's a pity we couldn't tax people 100% minus expenses for spouting that sort of nonsense.

Jimmy_31

Wookster wrote: »

Can someone explain to me why there is a huge uproar over the quasi-requirement to work for benefits?

After 6 months of benefits all claimants of JSA should be obliged to do something, either fort he benefit of the community or otherwise. To me the idea that one can claim benefits indefinitely for doing absolutely nothing is utterly insane.

Or give people the choice to opt out of the whole benefit and tax system.

If i ever end up out of work long term there is zero chance of me turning up at tescos so i can get my dole money.

jamespir

because people should be paid a decent wage for doing a days work and not expected to work as hard as everyone else in the place and not getting paid

abaxas

jamespir wrote: »

because people should be paid a decent wage for doing a days work and not expected to work as hard as everyone else in the place and not getting paid

But they are being paid to do nothing.

jamespir

abaxas wrote: »

But they are being paid to do nothing.

no thats what thick people think where as those who live in reality know different

abaxas

jamespir wrote: »

no thats what thick people think where as those who live in reality know different

So what are they paid for exactly?

Must be a reason :P

jamespir

abaxas wrote: »

So what are they paid for exactly?

Must be a reason :P

they aint being paid its to help cover household expenses during the time of unemployment

johnny_storm

RUN_RABBIT_RUN wrote: »

what work do you envisage these people doing?.

Perhaps they could do the washing, ironing, house work and gardening of those forced to pay for them to stay alive.

DaddyBear

purch wrote: »

We have a minimum wage in this country.

If you are working, whether casual, temporary, permanent or on a work trial the least you should expect is minimum wage in return for your labour.

Expecting people to do a Job that under normal circumstances would be paid a proper wage, in return for far lesser amount in benefits is not what I would expect from a decent society.

By all means make it compulsory for benefit claimants to undertake work trials, but at the very least pay them a proper wage whilst they do so.

A huge proportion of benefit claimants receive more than the average wage let alone the minimum wage.

shortchanged_2

Eton_Rifle wrote: »

Couldn't it be argued that the real world work experience offered by a corporate giant is surely statistically likely to be of more benefit to a job-seeker than that achieved by some random public service?

The idea of doing the public service work is as much as anything to disincentivise the notion of people sitting on their backsides doing nothing and getting housing and money for doing nothing.

As I said earlier it should be the people who have and never have had any intention to work or contribute to society who should be targeted by this.

We need a benefits system to work for those who genuinely need it, not those who are there to abuse it.