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  • fivetide
    fivetide Posts: 3,811 Forumite
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    Agreed. You've tried to scamp the woman.

    Must be terribly proud of yourself.

    Go round, give her the money back, collect the car. Advertise it properly. You might find you still get the same amount for it.

    5t.
    What if there was no such thing as a rhetorical question?
  • Bollx. The woman is annoyed at herself for being so stupid and she is taking it out on the seller. Ignore her IF it matches the description.
  • fivetide
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    Bollx. The woman is annoyed at herself for being so stupid and she is taking it out on the seller. Ignore her IF it matches the description.

    Did you even bother to read the first post?

    "She also said she has proof the eBay listing says that there are no problems with the car. The clutch is not broken, I have been driving it for the last 2 months and perhaps didn't notice it because I've got so used to it. Sometimes it revs and doesn't accelerate in higher gears, maybe it's slipping, but I didn't really believe it was that serious, I just thought something might need adjusting."

    The OP is blaming the buyer for not driving the car. Essentially they are saying it's her fault for trusting him as he's a liar.

    Superb.

    5t.
    What if there was no such thing as a rhetorical question?
  • I think you owe her a refund - you get your car back, can sell it someone for more, as you state it is worth more, and she gets her money back. WIN - WIN.
  • She is in the right if it is slipping.

    Revving without an increase in speed when in gear is the clutch slipping, I'd say she will win in court as it is not as described.

    You can't adjust the system on the Focus, it either works or it doesn't.

    Give the woman a refund, you will lose this one.
    Sometimes it revs and doesn't accelerate in higher gears, maybe it's slipping, but I didn't really believe it was that serious, I just thought something might need adjusting."

    How can you just assume that's not serious? When you put your foot down, you expect the car to accelerate accordingly, not rev to infinity. You knew it was faulty. I feel sorry for the woman, chasing you for your mis-description!
  • colino
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    You offered, off ebay, to a lower bidder, delivered the car at, as you say, considerable loss to you and she complained a very short time later about an obvious fault that you were aware of, but misled in the bay advert.

    Sure you can brazen it out, pretend it is a private sale and she has no comeback, or do the decent thing, buy it back, fix it properly, sell it and everyone is happy.
  • Notmyrealname
    Notmyrealname Posts: 4,003 Forumite
    edited 24 February 2012 at 1:13PM
    vivitar wrote: »
    The clutch is not broken, I have been driving it for the last 2 months and perhaps didn't notice it because I've got so used to it. Sometimes it revs and doesn't accelerate in higher gears, maybe it's slipping, but I didn't really believe it was that serious, I just thought something might need adjusting.
    Its broken. Its worn. Virtually every car has a self adjusting clutch cable or is hydraulic which doesn't need adjusting.
    I did mention that if the clutch was completely broken she wouldn't be able to even engage any gears.
    You're wrong. If the friction plate is worn, as long as drive is disengaged from the gearbox (which it will be) then you can engage gears with the engine running.
    She bought the car for 900. The trouble is I feel bad for her, and have offered to pay 1/3 towards a new clutch.. She said that isn't good enough and that if I don't pay the full amount she'll take me to small claimscourt.
    She has a case if you stated in writing in the auction that there was nothing wrong with the car.
    She also mentioned to me that she expected to buy a car in full working order (if it wasn't working how could I have drove it and dropped it to her door?), and now all she has is a heap of metal on her driveway, which I think is a gross exaggeration.

    If the clutch was slipping due to being worn, as it is, it would still be possible to move the vehicle but it doesn't mean the clutch isn't defective.

    In a court they'll wipe the floor with you merely by printing out the auction item description if you did put there were no faults.

    Can you give us the Ebay item number so we can see for ourselves?
  • Strider590
    Strider590 Posts: 11,874 Forumite
    edited 24 February 2012 at 1:14PM
    Say you can get a new clutch, to be fitted by a mate of yours...... When she gets snooty and says "no I want it done by dealership", you agree only to pay for the clutch kit (which will be £80 - £150).

    You've offered a solution, she's turned it down and your clear.


    But there's another problem....... How did she pay? was it Paypal? because she could open a case and get a full refund.

    PS I don't know why your all laying into OP, it's actually really hard to tell if a clutch is on it's way out, if you've had the car for a while you don't tend to notice.... Unless it really fails or you do the 4th gear/handbrake test once a month.
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  • It's quite simple to test a clutch, low revs in a high gear and plant your foot. If the revs rise dis-proportionally as they do here, the clutch is shot.

    I had a car with a knackered clutch, and I knew it was knackered every day. If she's noticed it immediately, then it must have been very knackered.

    I don't see what's really hard about not being able to put your foot down in 3rd / 4th / 5th without the revs rising quickly, seems something anyone would notice quite quickly!
  • s_b
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    Strider590 wrote: »
    Say you can get a new clutch, to be fitted by a mate of yours...... When she gets snooty and says "no I want it done by dealership", you agree only to pay for the clutch kit (which will be £80 - £150).

    You've offered a solution, she's turned it down and your clear.


    But there's another problem....... How did she pay? was it Paypal? because she could open a case and get a full refund.

    PS I don't know why your all laying into OP, it's actually really hard to tell if a clutch is on it's way out, if you've had the car for a while you don't tend to notice.... Unless it really fails or you do the 4th gear/handbrake test once a month.



    the clue is here in the original post for those that dont read everything relevent
    Sometimes it revs and doesn't accelerate in higher gears, maybe it's slipping, but I didn't really believe it was that serious, I just thought something might need adjusting.


    frankly those of you that have literally told this poor buyer to go do one i really despair at
    just think of the vitriol i would be getting if i had done this as a trader and stuck it up her drive

    you should hang your heads in shame:mad:
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