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  • Davesnave wrote: »

    If you look at their growing guide, the seeds look like radish and the first two pictures of seedlings are almost certainly pot geraniums! Still, they are promoting their product in a really useful way. :)

    :)

    I'm hoping to make my own pasta sauce this year, I've got pomadora seeds in, fingers crossed they grow!
  • Itismehonest
    Itismehonest Posts: 4,352 Forumite
    Davesnave wrote: »
    Having just caught up with the thread, no we are not in a ANOB, though I reckon we should be, and there are SSSIs nearby in the valleys. Here, we've mixed arable and pasture because there's a finger of good soil and relatively flat land on the tops. The arable is all managed via huge tractors & machinery, probably very efficiently too, but it can be quite noisy in spring, and later, at harvest time. I prefer that to the earlier use of the land close to us, which was as a huge pig farm!

    I was wondering if the change in planning laws would make life easier for those here with ongoing projects. I know the changes don't apply to any of the "protected" areas which is why I asked.
    I guess it is mainly aimed at new developments but.......
  • Davesnave
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    I was wondering if the change in planning laws would make life easier for those here with ongoing projects. I know the changes don't apply to any of the "protected" areas which is why I asked.
    I guess it is mainly aimed at new developments but.......

    We're not anticipating problems, other than paying for it!

    The local authority favour building upwards with bungalows. Size doesn't matter, apparently, (;)) so long as it's not totally inappropriate. This is what we are told.

    I found something slightly disturbing this morning in the lower field; what looks like a small spring, but with very black water/mud, which is niffy. There's not a lot of it, but the dry weather has made it obvious.

    My first reaction is that it's the end of a soakaway for a septic tank, which isn't soaking away. We've a neighbour who has land both sides of the road and their septic tank drains through a pipe which spans a ditch and then passes into our land. There's nothing on paper to say they can do that, but I've no problem with it, as the land there is rough and they are friendly folk. That's at a distance from this, though.....I'll measure.

    Mr Dog had trouble with his soakaway system up there too recently. His goes across a ditch and into the neighbouring farmer's field. They dug it up and replaced the shingle etc, terminating it at the stream. Is that legal?

    Anyway, for that reason, it's not his. ;)

    I suppose my question is, could this just be a natural spring? If the answer's "No," then it must be related to our friends' septic tank.
  • rozeepozee
    rozeepozee Posts: 1,971 Forumite
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    We have a trailer! Pictures to follow. Meanwhile it's a P7e Ifor Williams with a livestock kit :)
  • Itismehonest
    Itismehonest Posts: 4,352 Forumite
    edited 31 March 2012 at 4:28PM
    Davesnave wrote: »
    We're not anticipating problems, other than paying for it!

    The local authority favour building upwards with bungalows. Size doesn't matter, apparently, (;)) so long as it's not totally inappropriate. This is what we are told.

    I found something slightly disturbing this morning in the lower field; what looks like a small spring, but with very black water/mud, which is niffy. There's not a lot of it, but the dry weather has made it obvious.

    My first reaction is that it's the end of a soakaway for a septic tank, which isn't soaking away. We've a neighbour who has land both sides of the road and their septic tank drains through a pipe which spans a ditch and then passes into our land. There's nothing on paper to say they can do that, but I've no problem with it, as the land there is rough and they are friendly folk. That's at a distance from this, though.....I'll measure.

    Mr Dog had trouble with his soakaway system up there too recently. His goes across a ditch and into the neighbouring farmer's field. They dug it up and replaced the shingle etc, terminating it at the stream. Is that legal?

    Anyway, for that reason, it's not his. ;)

    I suppose my question is, could this just be a natural spring? If the answer's "No," then it must be related to our friends' septic tank.

    First thought is no, not a spring but, as you say, a soak away or some sort of old field drainage/pipe/culvert taking water for stock that has collapsed. If an old pipe which has been buried for years has broken it could explain the smell coming up.
    However, I know that decaying matter can make even the freshest of water stink when disturbed - I'm thinking of times like clearing bottoms of ponds & rivers which are crystal clear but stink when the bottom is disturbed - so it is a possibility.

    I'd have a bit of a poke around the area & see if there's any sign of pipework.
    If not, it could well be natural but it would be strange for a spring to surface somewhere new now. It often happens after a long wet spell but we haven't had one.

    As to discharging into a river..... well, it used to be the way most people did it :D but they're much tougher on it now.
    I'm pretty certain there's a minimum distance from water but don't know what it is, sorry
    Our own soakaway runs about 200 yards horizontally along the side of a hill within our boundaries & is many yards away from the streams.

    Have a dig around & see what you find.


    Congrats on the trailer, Rozee :D
  • rozeepozee
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    edited 31 March 2012 at 4:38PM
    As to discharging into a river..... well, it used to be the way most people did it :D but they're much tougher on it now.
    I'm pretty certain there's a minimum distance from water but don't know what it is, sorry
    Our own soakaway runs about 200 yards horizontally along the side of a hill within our boundaries & is many yards away from the streams.
    We've just discovered our septic tank is too close to a watercourse - our stream :(

    Edit: if it had been up to me, we would have come home with a pair or two of bantams also being sold by the trailer owner, but my OH's restraint prevailed....
  • lostinrates
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    edited 31 March 2012 at 6:50PM
    In flower of leaf now: burnt sugar tree, peach, japenese quince, tulips, black thorn, plums, still some daffs, wall flowers, the bleeding heart is rapidly unfurling from the ground, planted some bareroot birches already in leaf today, apple blossom just starting, viginia creeper leave unfulring slowly, horse chestnut looking smart in a new bright green light suit with gureen candles, roses fully in leaf (and covered in green fly, grrrr), pelagoniums (outaide will have to pull them in again tomorrow i guess,.)


    Edit: two fat buds on one rose, geums in flower, anemones in flower.


    Everywhere i look there are signs of life i am not expecting. First rape crop locally fully in flower, some around the south edges allready going over(earliest seen it get that far).

    Magnolias everywhere and of all types seem simply incredible this year, and the forcyithia.....not a plant i like, its glorious never the less this year (apart from ours, as soon as i realised what ipt was i hacked it down, its growing back in a beautiful huge bush i hope to dig out and take to alfie at some point!).

    The apples' plums, and peaches are bound to suffer from the expected frosts now. :(. Shame, because the blossom is very heavy and crops could have been outstanding.

    We switched the punp on the Cake in againt to dy, drenching our fruit trees and watering the baby hollies. Some of our hollies have deleoped black patches on their leaves, anyone know what form of pestualnce this is and what to do about it?

    Spiring has seriously, seriously arrived and we are already failing to keep up with it. I really, really need to think about a sit on lawn mower, the grass cut last week is ankle long again, and have had to give borrowed electic mower back for a while, yikes!

    Speaking of which...alfie, are you around any day of the long weekend? Dh will catch ruby for you so you and i, or just me, can have a play with her. I might have to bring my dogs in the car, but they will happily rest in the car if i give them a run in the forest before getting to you, they are social though, if your dogs are too?
  • Itismehonest
    Itismehonest Posts: 4,352 Forumite
    edited 31 March 2012 at 5:31PM
    rozeepozee wrote: »
    We've just discovered our septic tank is too close to a watercourse - our stream :(

    Edit: if it had been up to me, we would have come home with a pair or two of bantams also being sold by the trailer owner, but my OH's restraint prevailed....

    Had a look at the (as far as I can tell latest but not guaranteeing it!) 2010 Regs. (H2)
    It says the tank has to be more than 7m from any habitable parts of buildings & preferably downslope. They should only be used in conjunction with a form of secondary treatment e.g. drainage field, drainage mound or constructed wetland.

    Dave
    The drainage field or mound should be sited at least 10m from any watercourse or permeable drain;
    At least 50m from the point of abstraction of any ground water supply & not in any Zone 1 groundwater protection zone;
    At least 15m from any building

    There's more but if we're going to be Sewage Nerds we can read the rest here :rotfl:

    LIR
    Not sure about where you are but the temperature will go down to freezing or below in some places next week.
    Little spots or big dots on the holly?
  • rozeepozee
    rozeepozee Posts: 1,971 Forumite
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    Had a look at the (as far as I can tell latest but not guaranteeing it!) 2010 Regs. (H2)
    It says the tank has to be more than 7m from any habitable parts of buildings & preferably downslope. They should only be used in conjunction with a form of secondary treatment e.g. drainage field, drainage mound or constructed wetland.

    Dave
    The drainage field or mound should be sited at least 10m from any watercourse or permeable drain;
    At least 50m from the point of abstraction of any ground water supply & not in any Zone 1 groundwater protection zone;
    At least 15m from any building

    There's more but if we're going to be Sewage Nerds we can read the rest here :rotfl:

    LIR
    Not sure about where you are but the temperature will go down to freezing or below in some places next week.
    Little spots or big dots on the holly?
    Ha, well it's too close to the house as well as being too close to the watercourse. It is downslope though :D

    Had a successful shopping spree at a village table top sale this morning before buying the trailer. Bought a few feet high pile of Country Smallholder and suchlike for a fiver (I was feeling generous), two ride on toys for the girls, a lovely little hen pot for sugar, a Maran shaped money box (plan to keep any hen profits in there), some books and a few bits to keep the boy happy :T
  • lostinrates
    lostinrates Posts: 55,283 Forumite
    I've been Money Tipped!
    Had a look at the (as far as I can tell latest but not guaranteeing it!) 2010 Regs. (H2)
    It says the tank has to be more than 7m from any habitable parts of buildings & preferably downslope. They should only be used in conjunction with a form of secondary treatment e.g. drainage field, drainage mound or constructed wetland.

    Dave
    The drainage field or mound should be sited at least 10m from any watercourse or permeable drain;
    At least 50m from the point of abstraction of any ground water supply & not in any Zone 1 groundwater protection zone;
    At least 15m from any building

    There's more but if we're going to be Sewage Nerds we can read the rest here :rotfl:

    LIR
    Not sure about where you are but the temperature will go down to freezing or below in some places next week.
    Little spots or big dots on the holly?

    I know...i will have to go crazy with fleece and pull the pelagoniums in again:o

    Big splodgey blotches. Like blackspot on a rose. But without the yellowing. Not all have it, one has worse than others, and his neighbours are fine. The ones that have it also seem to have naturally darker leaves and stems ( i wanted all dark ones, and thought ilex aquafolia native would all be the same)
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