Daydream thread continues.....

lostinrates

Dave, re bashing in posts, doesn't pete have a driver on his tractor? Its the best solution as far as i am concerned! My family have always had a traditional two handled basher. Its obviously a challenge for women with less upper body strength, but dh has also eschewed it. He prefers to risk damaging posts, put a bit of old wood on top and go mad with a mallet. Its not what i would do, but its what he prefers and he is doing it so its what happenes here!

This year i will be talking to the digger man about digging a new ditch, making a bank with the spoil for hedge planting and fencing the other side of the bank. Stock wire and rail top will be my certain preference there.

I was trying to convince him that s e of those cheaty metal spike things might do fo a fence we want to put in that i want dog and bird proof, but is not going to be under pressure from horses. Its right by a ditch and as the pressure will not be strong i thought those metal spikes would be less damaging to the bank and easier for the very short (i think less than fifteen metres, certaily less than twenty, stretch we have to do next.

rozeepozee

Itismehonest wrote: »

OK, not to worry, rozee. It doesn't sound like it was a traditional hedge so laying probably wouldn't work.
I was thinking you may have been able to do something like this (although this is a particularly tidy looking professional one) whilst leaving some of the more mature trees as they are. New shoots then grow vertically from the branches laid horizontally & it thickens up & fills gaps.
Hedges can be gapped-up. It's usually done with whips or saplings of plants that already grow in the hedge but you would need to know what you have there to get an idea of how successful they'd be. e.g. Beech is the usual one used for hedging around here.

That looks great, IME. That would definately keep us happy long term but our hedge isn't as high as that at the moment and I don't think there's enough soil to grow the new horizontal hedges. It'll take some work to build the bank up like that (OH's response to the pic was "I'm not building that bank up by hand, it's a job for a digger") but definately something we'd do long term. I think the current thinking is stock fence inside this length of hedge as Alf suggests, then do something akin to what IME's pic shows and once this is established, remove the fence for elsewhere. It's really only a short term problem until the twins have some common sense. The five year old does as he's told and he isn't daft enough to be attempting to escape here, but the twins... They are wild and Houdini-ish :mad:

It's a bit of a shame that there was a boundary dispute at the tip of the triangle of the land and a small portion of the land is now in separate ownership, or we would basically have a very straigtforward piece of triangular land bounded at the rear by a ?council owned footpath, and two other sides by council maintained roads, no neighbours to argue with When we bought it, the tip of the triangle which the nearest houses had tended the hedges to for the last god knows how many years was transferred into their ownership. We need to have a discussion with them about where the fencing goes there. I do not want any bad feeling about this bit of land as it's obviously been a very contentious issue in the past. Good relations with our very pleasant neighbours are far more important to us than claiming a few extra square footage of land. We've got plenty Bloody solicitors though. They did they transfer without any reference to us at all. No people skills whatsoever. We only found out the tranfer had been made a month later. If they'd talked to us, we'd have at least known where our boundary was! You'd think they were encouraging a new neighbour dispute.... Anyway, hopefully the neighbours will be happy for us to pay for a fence to clarify things for the long term.

Stock fencing is £46 per metre here apparently, alf. Re the skills required for fence laying. Once those girls are at nursery, I'm going to start volunteering at Coppicewood College down the road every Wednesday. They do a full blown woodland management course is you have the time and want to pay, but if you volunteer, they teach you all the same skills for nowt.

COOLTRIKERCHICK

Hi All,

Rozee, i have been pricing up stock fencing, and the medium gauge is just under £44 for a 50m roll...

This is the first thing we are going to do is repair/fence in whats there. some of the old fencing has well gone, and people can/have been going on the land, even dumping their garden waste on it:mad:
ok it is going to look like a mish-mash, with the diff fencing, but at the moment what looks good is not a financial option... it is to stop and to show the people ( who's gardens back onto the lane etc) that it is owned by someone and not a free for all.

Also the land around the house is going to be fenced by stock fencing.. again not ideal as people will be nosing into the garden etc...But its a way of marking our land....

Sooooooooooo hopefully the Easter Bank Holiday will be nice ( well we can but hope) so we can start this job then.

Yesturday went really well, ( wish all the fairs were like that) not only did we do well financially, but we sold loads of items that had been around all the fairs a few times, and i was only saying to hubby when unloading and railing up the clothes, that lots of items will have to stop going to the fairs.....


Did have some things nicked... but you got to expect that...apart from that really wish we could do fairs like that every weekend....

There is a monthly fair in spittalfield, London every month, and we were thinking of trying that... ok nearly 4 hours to get there etc, but maybe one good one a month would help us out a huge amount in work etc..

Davesnave.... you are a sweetheart thank you:beer: but i do want to pay..or if there is anything else you are looking for let me know...

Davesnave

rozeepozee wrote: »

Stock fencing is £46 per metre here apparently, alf. .

:eek:Alf was talking materials, but even so....

Or do you mean £4-£6/m?

rozeepozee

COOLTRIKERCHICK wrote: »

Hi All,

Rozee, i have been pricing up stock fencing, and the medium gauge is just under £44 for a 50m roll...

This is the first thing we are going to do is repair/fence in whats there. some of the old fencing has well gone, and people can/have been going on the land, even dumping their garden waste on it:mad:
ok it is going to look like a mish-mash, with the diff fencing, but at the moment what looks good is not a financial option... it is to stop and to show the people ( who's gardens back onto the lane etc) that it is owned by someone and not a free for all.

Also the land around the house is going to be fenced by stock fencing.. again not ideal as people will be nosing into the garden etc...But its a way of marking our land....

Sooooooooooo hopefully the Easter Bank Holiday will be nice ( well we can but hope) so we can start this job then.

Yesturday went really well, ( wish all the fairs were like that) not only did we do well financially, but we sold loads of items that had been around all the fairs a few times, and i was only saying to hubby when unloading and railing up the clothes, that lots of items will have to stop going to the fairs.....


Did have some things nicked... but you got to expect that...apart from that really wish we could do fairs like that every weekend....

There is a monthly fair in spittalfield, London every month, and we were thinking of trying that... ok nearly 4 hours to get there etc, but maybe one good one a month would help us out a huge amount in work etc..

Davesnave.... you are a sweetheart thank you:beer: but i do want to pay..or if there is anything else you are looking for let me know...

We've had the same problem CTC. It was before we bought the place so I don't feel too bad about it (doesn't feel like it was personal!) but it was one neighbour, apparently, who is known as a bit of an !!!!, apparently. Another straight talking neigbour has "had a word" and put a sign at the bottom of the lane saying "No Dumping". I'm hoping that, once we're up there, we can help make this lane a more pleasant place to walk.

rozeepozee

Davesnave wrote: »

:eek:Alf was talking materials, but even so....

Or do you mean £4-£6/m?

I think it might have been per roll....

Itismehonest

Dave - Like you we are fairly stony so do as little fencing as possible without a pro using machinery. The only time anything tends to be hand done is when one or two posts need replacing because stock or weather has damaged them. The tool of choice then (at least in this immediate area's farmers) is the 2-handled driver. They often use it between 2 burly blokes - one handle each.

Rozee - Yes, a stock fence for while the children are young is probably the best. I expect you'll be having plenty of soil moved about during the work being done so you can always use some of that (dug & dumped by machine) to build up the bank on your side. If you set the stock fence far enough in from the current bank to allow a digger & dumper to work behind it then you'll have plenty of time to sort out what you want to do with the hedge.
Dave's right. Holly can be incredibly slow growing which is why they don't like people going into the countryside to cut it for Christmas. It forms a good hedge but you would need several years for it to really take shape.

The price for stock fencing will vary depending on the quality you want...... what stock you want to keep in (or out ).

Do you not have a local Farm Supplies co-operative or something similar? It would pay you to join as they can often get discounts on almost everything for both the land & also stuff used in buildings & the home.

alfie_1

CTC.... brickfields in london is a good market for vintage stuff. there is the main street and side roads. if i can find it i will get you the womans e mail for details.i looked into it for my vintage dresses [must sell !] i THINK it comes under CAMBDEN . but i could be so muddledy wrong.....:(

DAVESNAVE.... i use what looks like a huge corkscrew to screw out a hole start manually then i usually stand on a wibbly wobbly chair and wildly swing a sledgehammer in the direction of the post top ....:D put it like this , i dont think i will be able to add "fencer" to my CV...:rotfl: the best fencer is the person who gets someone else to do it !!

ALEX..i was not being rude not commiserating re the loss of adored cat, i waited a bit as i still badly miss my GEORGE, and id have been too sentimental and not helped !:o but i know how you feel...as iv said before ..i step back now and look at the life they had with ME compared to other poor critters that are NOT loved and know they had the best life .

LIR.... i think if you fence your "pond" i would DEF put a top rail on judging by your DH's random running butt naked into it !!:rotfl::rotfl:

im off to the post office to post my "plane" [my foden]...
which leads me to hoping rhiwfield is OK ??

lostinrates

COOLTRIKERCHICK wrote: »

Hi All,

Rozee, i have been pricing up stock fencing, and the medium gauge is just under £44 for a 50m roll...

This is the first thing we are going to do is repair/fence in whats there. some of the old fencing has well gone, and people can/have been going on the land, even dumping their garden waste on it:mad:
ok it is going to look like a mish-mash, with the diff fencing, but at the moment what looks good is not a financial option... it is to stop and to show the people ( who's gardens back onto the lane etc) that it is owned by someone and not a free for all.

Also the land around the house is going to be fenced by stock fencing.. again not ideal as people will be nosing intoH the garden etc...But its a way of marking our land....

Sooooooooooo hopefully the Easter Bank Holiday will be nice ( well we can but hope) so we can start this job then.

Yesturday went really well, ( wish all the fairs were like that) not only did we do well financially, but we sold loads of items that had been around all the fairs a few times, and i was only saying to hubby when unloading and railing up the clothes, that lots of items will have to stop going to the fairs.....


Did have some things nicked... but you got to expect that...apart from that really wish we could do fairs like that every weekend....

There is a monthly fair in spittalfield, London every month, and we were thinking of trying that... ok nearly 4 hours to get there etc, but maybe one good one a month would help us out a huge amount in work etc..

Davesnave.... you are a sweetheart thank you:beer: but i do want to pay..or if there is anything else you are looking for let me know...

Horrid to have to expect people to steal. Depressing. Dh goes nosying at spittalfields when he works in the city. Lots of the spittal field stands and shops also have webites, which i am guessing are at least as profitable. I get emails fron obe or two and swoon at the prices!

rozeepozee

In a former life, I almost bought a house in Spitalfields. It would have cost more or less the same, 12 years ago, as the bungalow and four acres cost us last year. I'm so glad I decided not to stay married and to leave London.