CSA Please can anyone advise

kevin137

I completely agree with you... I would be looking for ways to reduce my payments as well that being the case...!

What i don't think other understand is that YOU have to look out for YOUR kids, and not hers...! If you and your kids went without to pay her money when she is in that situation i am sure i would be pi**ed as well...!

Check into it more before you jump in and rent a bigger place though, it may be that you are moved onto a different CSA payment scheme and that would then screw you anyway, as it is worked out on income rather than costs...

Just my opinion.

duchy

Yes because all mothers when their husbands cheat and move in with the other woman turn from paragons of virtue into single mother, sofa slumping, chain smoking monsters and the other woman is transformed from girl about town sleeping with whoever into resentful but hardworking saint .

Give me strength ! Can we talk DM stereotypes here or what ?

I've never heard such rubbish.

If the mother the OP is talking about has only one fourteen year old she'll be on JSA and job seeking -yet the OP proudly tells us they were on zero assessment for the last four years and thinks £60 a week is a huge and unfair amount for the father to pay to support his child -despite not paying a penny for the last four years-and the new partner now wants a posher house to try and avoid supporting the child at all. I'm not sure the accusations of f-ecklessness are getting thrown in the right direction here.

EDIT I see the mother works and is not on JSA -obviously the OP thinks WTC and CTC are immoral and doesn't claim them herself.

DeeDee74

vicster994 wrote: »

Now lets see. Mother works 16 hrs a week and recieves working tax credit/income support/ housing benefit. All of which are unaffected by csa payments.

So you mention housing costs what exactly are you referring to. Up keep of the property ummmm no she is social housing tenant. Wife is able to work 5 days a week as child leaves the house at 7 in the morning and returns at 5. But works just over 2. HER CHOICE

How lucky to be able to spend the rest of the week smoking and watching day time tv and why because SHE CAN

I work 30 hours a week leaving my mother to bring up my 19 month old as we cannot afford extreme nursery costs.

How niave to think that every mother in recepit of CSA uses the money responsibly, I don,t think so.

So if the burden of tax payers is relieved by using making the payments GREAT. But thats not the case, but if I can rent a bigger house which would enable my sons to have their own bedrooms and the CSA payments stop bring it on.....

Perhaps the mother would like to earn money and work a full week as opposed to the tax payer picking her smoking tab

Daughter has her own room, my sons share. Thats because we have to privately rent WHY because we both work.

GETTING THE PICTURE

So lets see where the money goes shall we.

omfg she work's she's get's working tax ,child tax CAUSE she's entitled to it, as do u for your other children u claim cb,ctc wt?
consent on and on about daughter has her own room and your boys have to share so??? she's either an only child or has a brother? so needs her own room!!!!

duchy

kevin137 wrote: »

I completely agree with you... I would be looking for ways to reduce my payments as well that being the case...!

What i don't think other understand is that YOU have to look out for YOUR kids, and not hers...! If you and your kids went without to pay her money when she is in that situation i am sure i would be pi**ed as well...!

Check into it more before you jump in and rent a bigger place though, it may be that you are moved onto a different CSA payment scheme and that would then screw you anyway, as it is worked out on income rather than costs...

Just my opinion.

So once a relationship breaks down and a parent no longer lives with a child they have no further responsibility for that child ?

If *this* relationship also breaks down (something like one in two second relationships also break down) would you be telling the poster that her boyfriend has to think about the kids in his THIRD relationship and her sons with him are of importance no longer ?

As for "reducing payments" They haven't paid a penny for the last four years-how do you reduce from zero ?

If the CSA think they are deliberately up-sizing to avoid paying they will move them onto income based claim-and then they will be finding an extra £200 in rent plus the child support.

Any parent who thinks it's entirely unreasonable for a fourteen year old child to have their own room rather than share with a parent-so THEY can feather their own nest buying a house needs a priority check. How on earth do you treat this poor child when she visits her father ????

You CHOSE to have a second child knowing you couldn't afford childcare and are fortunate your mother will supply free childcare but you are lucky -lots of people don't have that luxury -I for example thought I did -I was back from Mat leave a month when my Father dropped dead of a heart attack and my Mother decided she could no longer care for my son as she had a fear (irrational but real) the same thing might happen to her and he'd be in danger. I needed to find childcare at short notice from an already tight budget. Situations can change.

DeeDee74

oh and why im at it, nil payment for 4years why was u on benefit, maybe 2 busy chain smoking and watching jk ay lol

DeeDee74

kevin137 wrote: »

I completely agree with you... I would be looking for ways to reduce my payments as well that being the case...!

What i don't think other understand is that YOU have to look out for YOUR kids, and not hers...! If you and your kids went without to pay her money when she is in that situation i am sure i would be pi**ed as well...!

Check into it more before you jump in and rent a bigger place though, it may be that you are moved onto a different CSA payment scheme and that would then screw you anyway, as it is worked out on income rather than costs...

Just my opinion.

isent that his child 2?? sorry dosent live with him no longer his problem is it?, yet we'll all sit there and moan that pwc claims ctc an cb, nrp dosent wana pay either just who is ment to keep this child??

kevin137

And out come all the complainers....!!!

The OP's ex works the bare minimum, while the NRP and the NRPP both work and yet they have kids that have to share a bedroom...??? WHile the PWC gets it all paid for....??? Does that sound fair...???

I would as the NRPP expect my children to at least have the same lifestyle as the ex's child, and if that is selfish then so be it...!

The NRPP is looking out for the interest of HER children, and that is not something to be ashamed of...!!! Doesn't matter if it is the same father as the ex's or not, her children are her priority...!!!

duchy

fannyanna wrote: »

OP I'm guessing your husband is on CSA1. I don't really understand how this sytem works. If your husband was on CSA2 he would need to pay 15% of his net salary to his ex. Do you know whether the 15% would be more or less than the £239 he's being asked to pay now? I'm getting the impression that the £239 equates to more than 15% of his net salary and that is why it's a bitter pill to be swallowed. I can understand that. Unfortunately the other posters are also right that your husband should be financially responsible for his first child.

Not sure why that should be unfortunate.

Perhaps if the OP's boyfriend had manned up to his responsibilities from the off and paid child support under a private arrangement instead of hiding from his responsibilities behind a zero assessment they wouldn't be in this situation now though ? (How little do you need to be earning to get a zero assessment-with two people working I'd have though neither were working full-time to stay below the threshold but I don't know an awful lot about CSA1)

kevin137

Isn't it funny that claiming CTC and WTC is classed as being her right... Yet when a man "hides behind a zero assessment" it is so wrong...

Are these not what laws and benefits are put into place for....???

What is good for the goose and all that... How dare all you self righteous aresholes slate someone for doing something to better the lives of her children and then complain when the tables are turned on you...!!!

DeeDee74

NRP claims CTC WTC also, so its ok for nrp but not pwc, both claim cause thay can simple dont see your point