CSA Please can anyone advise

vicster933

Hi

Husband has daughter who is 14 and we have 2 sons. we have to pay £239.00 under the csa1 as of now following a 4 year nil assessment. After the birth of our first son.

I have not disclosed my income so they based it my husband alone. I was told by them I need to be earning less £250.00 a month then I am now in order for it to return to a nil balance.

Now we rent a 2 bed place with the boys sharing in order to save to buy a house. However ex wife is on housing benefit child has her own bedroom. I am shocked to learn that none of her benefits will be affects by this new amount.

So I am thinking, if we were to up our rent by £200.00 a month in order to have a 3 bed (boys have their own bedrooms) house would this bring the assessment back to a NIL balance.

I really need an opinion on this as I am not getting the answer from the csa.....

Thanks

Vic

DeeDee74

why do u think he shouldn't pay? it's your oh daughter he should want to pay

vicster933

no his daughter does not get the money her mother does and if you knew her 239.00 aint going to be spent on the daugther.

yes if the money was in clothing and food vouchers of course she can have money.

do i spend 239 on my sons a month yeah right.

mspa

DeeDee74 wrote: »

why do u think he shouldn't pay? it's your oh daughter he should want to pay

Im sure she does think he should pay but an amount that is fair for all the children the boys included

duchy

Why do you think it's not acceptable for a fourteen year old to have their own bedroom rather than share with a parent ? Would you want a level playing field -and you and your partner share a bedroom with your children too ?

If you choose not to spend £118 on each of your children to support them that is your decision -although if you calculated what your living costs would be without them -eg 1 bedroom flat not 2 bed-no childcare, no clothes/school dinners/toys/cost of furniture/extra heating/treats and so on you might be surprised.

As for "if the money was in food and clothing vouchers -of course she can have the money" Hate to burst your bubble but she's going to get it anyway -your opinion doesn't count-it's what your boyfriend is legally obligated to pay to support HIS child . Even though as you refer to a nil assessment for the last four years it seems you are implying this man paid NOTHING to support his child for the last four years.......and you're moaning that now he has to pay ?????? Sheesh !

I really don't understand why women like you get so screwed up over child support-it's not like you didn't know there was a child involved before you got with this man so you knew he'd need to support them .
I really feel for kids lumbered with having to put up with resentful new partners when they visit their NRP -it can't be nice for them. Still never mind OP statistically as your new partner has one broken family behind him he's more likely to have another-and if he does at least you know you'll get support for your children with him

It appears you have fudged the figures by not declaring the full household income (your earnings) and think keeping a child costs less than £62 per week -and claim to spend less than £31 per week per child on your own children's support (assuming the £239 you are quoting is per month and not per week-you aren't clear on this point).

So what EXACTLY are you moaning about ????

mspa

I would imagine she is moaning because they are struggling to pay it. As a pwc and nrpp and can see both sides. Even when my partner and his ex are in dispute over whatever!!! the children are always made to feel welcome and always told especially when their mother has tried to drag them into it that it is not their worry its just silly adult arguements. All that matters when they visit is that they enjoy themselves. You cant really judge everyone on your experiences and I would imagine from you reaction unfortunately you have not had an easy time x

DeeDee74

mspa wrote: »

Im sure she does think he should pay but an amount that is fair for all the children the boys included

didnt she just say thay had nil payment for the last 4 years! quiet happy to try and find a way to get out of paying for the nxt 4 by the looks of it. sorry his kid he pays simple really, doesnt matter what money pwc gets if her dad was living with pwc still he'd be paying for his daughter ,housing,food,gas electric....
sorry kids cost money u made them u pay 4 them

mspa

DeeDee74 wrote: »

sorry kids cost money u made them u pay 4 them

I wish it was that easy

DeeDee74

my point is it should be, thats why csa is there, people should want to pay not think about getting a bigger house so they dont have to pay!!!! op seems 2 think cause she doesent give her boys what £30 odd pound each a week there missing out, she seems to forget they cost money 2feed cloth gas electric water roof over there head bet thay get far more than measly £30 a week.

fannyanna

I think I can understand OP's logic.

If the view is that the PWC is on benefits and basically having everything paid for by the state then why should the NRP pay towards things like putting a roof over their head when that cost is already covered by the state. Especially when the NRP and NRPP are not financially well off.

At least that's what I think OP thinks but I could be completely wrong.

OP I'm guessing your husband is on CSA1. I don't really understand how this sytem works. If your husband was on CSA2 he would need to pay 15% of his net salary to his ex. Do you know whether the 15% would be more or less than the £239 he's being asked to pay now? I'm getting the impression that the £239 equates to more than 15% of his net salary and that is why it's a bitter pill to be swallowed. I can understand that. Unfortunately the other posters are also right that your husband should be financially responsible for his first child.

vicster994

Now lets see. Mother works 16 hrs a week and recieves working tax credit/income support/ housing benefit. All of which are unaffected by csa payments.

So you mention housing costs what exactly are you referring to. Up keep of the property ummmm no she is social housing tenant. Wife is able to work 5 days a week as child leaves the house at 7 in the morning and returns at 5. But works just over 2. HER CHOICE

How lucky to be able to spend the rest of the week smoking and watching day time tv and why because SHE CAN

I work 30 hours a week leaving my mother to bring up my 19 month old as we cannot afford extreme nursery costs.

How niave to think that every mother in recepit of CSA uses the money responsibly, I don,t think so.

So if the burden of tax payers is relieved by using making the payments GREAT. But thats not the case, but if I can rent a bigger house which would enable my sons to have their own bedrooms and the CSA payments stop bring it on.....

Perhaps the mother would like to earn money and work a full week as opposed to the tax payer picking her smoking tab

Daughter has her own room, my sons share. Thats because we have to privately rent WHY because we both work.

GETTING THE PICTURE

So lets see where the money goes shall we.