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Property Transactions UP in January 2012

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  • DpchMd
    DpchMd Posts: 540 Forumite
    edited 30 May 2012 at 4:22PM
    AndyGuil wrote: »
    http://www.sharecast.com/cgi-bin/sharecast/story.cgi?story_id=20069885

    There we go. Earlier this year was a blip caused by the stamp duty holiday ending. As expected the downwards movement has resumed and it is now setting new lows.

    Hi Andy, it looks like mortgage approvals went up again last month.

    https://mninews.deutsche-boerse.com/index.php/update-2-boe-data-mortgage-approvals-rise-april?q=content/update-2-boe-data-mortgage-approvals-rise-april

    How is your downwards movement looking?
    "Beware of little expenses. A small leak will sink a great ship." - Benjamin Franklin
  • AndyGuil
    AndyGuil Posts: 1,668 Forumite
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    edited 30 May 2012 at 4:48PM
    It is still moving down. The trend rather than the month-to-month volatility.

    Unless the economy recovers it isn't going to be good for a while and its volume is already puny and volatile.
  • DpchMd
    DpchMd Posts: 540 Forumite
    AndyGuil wrote: »
    It is still moving down. The trend rather than the month-to-month volatility.

    Unless the economy recovers it isn't going to be good for a while and its volume is already puny and volatile.

    Yes, the trend is still "moving down" despite consecutive increases. I could accept stagnating, but "moving down" makes you lose all credit.
    "Beware of little expenses. A small leak will sink a great ship." - Benjamin Franklin
  • DpchMd
    DpchMd Posts: 540 Forumite
    AndyGuil wrote: »
    The tax exemption ended on 24th March so March data includes those that rushed in at the end. It is also only a touch above the Feb data which is a lot down from the Jan data where most rushed in. No exemption in April, pretty obvious which way it is going.

    Jan 58k
    Feb 49k
    Mar 49.8k
    Stamp duty holiday end - 24th March.

    How did that work out for ya?
    "Beware of little expenses. A small leak will sink a great ship." - Benjamin Franklin
  • AndyGuil
    AndyGuil Posts: 1,668 Forumite
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    The trend is more than a few consecutive months. The previous months heavily influence by policy change (although volume is still very low). Now that is out of the equation look for an uninfluenced trend which so far is 1 month, i.e. not a trend. Looking further back from this shows the trend is poor. The volume is small and volatile and the market is in a poor state. External influences on the market still persist and have not relieved, if anything they have started to get worse.
  • AndyGuil
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    edited 30 May 2012 at 5:20PM
    DpchMd wrote: »
    How did that work out for ya?
    Lol 756 increase. Hardly any volume. Let the months roll and see the trend. It is still trending down.
  • DpchMd
    DpchMd Posts: 540 Forumite
    AndyGuil wrote: »
    Lol 756 increase. Hardly any volume. Let the months roll and see the trend. It is still trending down. Still near its 3 year low.

    It would be easier if you just said "looks like I was wrong this time".
    "Beware of little expenses. A small leak will sink a great ship." - Benjamin Franklin
  • AndyGuil
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    edited 30 May 2012 at 5:24PM
    DpchMd wrote: »
    It would be easier if you just said "looks like I was wrong this time".
    I do admit it is surprising to see it up, albeit a tiny amount. It is certainly not a trend no where near confidence inspiring. The volume is still very poor and the volatility is still high which leaves the coming months to exposed to the prevailing trend which is driven by the market conditions. Hardly anywhere near the 120k that was driving the market before.
  • DpchMd
    DpchMd Posts: 540 Forumite
    AndyGuil wrote: »
    I do admit it is surprising to see it up, albeit a tiny amount. It is certainly not a trend no where near confidence inspiring. The volume is still very poor and the volatility is still high which leaves the coming months to exposed to the prevailing trend which is driven by the market conditions.

    So you were wrong? See if you can say it.
    "Beware of little expenses. A small leak will sink a great ship." - Benjamin Franklin
  • chucky
    chucky Posts: 15,170 Forumite
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    AndyGuil wrote: »
    The volume is still very poor.
    Quite... Nearly 52,000 mortgage approvals in one month is very poor.

    You have to despair with some people sometimes.
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