BBC One tonight: Poor America

Norfolk_Jim

WhiteHorse wrote: »

Why should you be taxed for something that they don't deliver and then have to pay for it all over again elsewhere?

We pay a premium price for premium services. If they don't want to supply it, fair enough ... but don't take the money for it.

Because a working society is better for us all, Rich or poor. If people are abandoned to survival of the fittest you end up with Somalia or Detroit.

like them or not, the richer people in society cant do without everyone else, they are their customers

stonethrower

Generali wrote: »

IME NHS nurses don't really provide much in the way of care. My son was born by Ceasar and his nappy was never changed in 4 days in hospital. Mrs Generali was unable to get up to change him so he was left to lie in his own pi55 until I came to the hospital.

When I pointed out that perhaps a nurse could get off her !!!! and do a bit of nursing I was told I was "clueless".

Rich people should subsidize the health care of poor people. The NHS is a lousy way to do that IMHO.

I hope this is not a sign of things to come for our baby.

PasturesNew

I've recently called out of hours and it's ended up needing a hospitalisation - and I was given a choice "do you want to drive them there, or shall we get an ambulance?" To be honest, I've said "Get an ambulance, I can't get them into the hospital with my car". I have a car, with fuel, can drive fine .... what I can't do is park right at the door and transfer a patient into a wheelchair and wheel them down to be booked in, then return to my car to drive it off to the car park because you can't park at the door. If I tried that it'd be clamped/towed before I'd even sourced a wheelchair to start doing the transfer....

You'd think they'd have thought of that wouldn't you... but no. The only way to actually get an immobile person into A&E/similar is to get the ambulance to take them because only the ambulance can get near to the door.

Norfolk_Jim

Except in Norwich

ruggedtoast

PasturesNew wrote: »

I've recently called out of hours and it's ended up needing a hospitalisation - and I was given a choice "do you want to drive them there, or shall we get an ambulance?" To be honest, I've said "Get an ambulance, I can't get them into the hospital with my car". I have a car, with fuel, can drive fine .... what I can't do is park right at the door and transfer a patient into a wheelchair and wheel them down to be booked in, then return to my car to drive it off to the car park because you can't park at the door. If I tried that it'd be clamped/towed before I'd even sourced a wheelchair to start doing the transfer....

You'd think they'd have thought of that wouldn't you... but no. The only way to actually get an immobile person into A&E/similar is to get the ambulance to take them because only the ambulance can get near to the door.

There is a minimum rate of £6 at our hospital for anything other than dropping off. You can't even park for 5 minutes to go into reception and pick up the person you are collecting, unless you pay £6.

Its daylight robbery, none of the council or private car parks in town cost anything like that much. They have all these warning signs telling you not to park if you dont have any money.

The last time we had to take our kid there with a respiratory emergency at midnight. About 3 am when he's discharged I realise I can't actually get out of the carpark as I don't have any money.