Child Support under a court order

PayDay

Speaking from a fathers point of view. If my children attend University, I will be proud and honoured to financially support them.

MJMum wrote:

I do worry that the UK is raising a very warped generation of ADULTS (which is what they are by the time they are at uni) who have a sense of entitlement just because their parents happen to have separated.

Parents have always tried to support their children. But, the "warped generation of adults" the UK is creating is the throw-away-kids attitude some parents (again, usually fathers) have from what I have read since joining these forums.

We wouldn't need a CSA if fathers took responsibility for their children. The CSA payments seem pitifully low to raise a child on, yet I read here that they are reduced further if their father then goes on to have even more children with different women! And now I read that these payments are stopped when they go to University and the children are having to go to court to get financial help. Its about time the government did more to make it harder for these dead beat dads, not easier.

space_rider

MJMum that`s unfair. Remember children from broken homes don`t do well do they. So if that is the case then there should be hardly any of them going to Uni. By the way my children are doing very well, good members of society, and the ones that are old enough have done extremely well in GCSE`s etc. If they choose to go to uni it will be because they want to and not because we have seperated. There are no orders or anything through CSA I decided that it was too stressful and time consuming to pursue him and just increased my working hours so we could manage.

MJMum

My point is, "children" (who are actually adults by the time they can decide to go to uni) who are from families where the parents are still together do not have the "right" to sue them for financial help, so why should the "children" from separated parents be different?

Personally, I was so grateful to my parents for the limited amount of help that they were able to provide, in addition to my student loans and working part-time. But I never considered myself "entitled" to it, like some PWCs seem to be instilling in their children.

thesaint

PayDay wrote:

Speaking from a fathers point of view. If my children attend University, I will be proud and honoured to financially support them.



Parents have always tried to support their children. But, the "warped generation of adults" the UK is creating is the throw-away-kids attitude some parents (again, usually fathers) have from what I have read since joining these forums.

We wouldn't need a CSA if fathers took responsibility for their children. The CSA payments seem pitifully low to raise a child on, yet I read here that they are reduced further if their father then goes on to have even more children with different women! And now I read that these payments are stopped when they go to University and the children are having to go to court to get financial help. Its about time the government did more to make it harder for these dead beat dads, not easier.

What are the government doing to make it easier for those 'dead beat dad's'.

Sensemaya

MJMum wrote:

My point is, "children" (who are actually adults by the time they can decide to go to uni) who are from families where the parents are still together do not have the "right" to sue them for financial help, so why should the "children" from separated parents be different?

Personally, I was so grateful to my parents for the limited amount of help that they were able to provide, in addition to my student loans and working part-time. But I never considered myself "entitled" to it, like some PWCs seem to be instilling in their children.

The answer to this is that both parents will contribute if both parents are together. But some ( not all ) NRPs move on,don't they and form other relationships and the children from the first relationship ultimately suffer.( Just like my kids and lots of other children in the same situation do ).

Even if successful I can guarantee the Order would be for a limited amount anyway.

I resent the tone of your posting. I'm a PWC. Just starting the school run,so can't elaborate further at the moment.

As for Saint's posting about 'deadbeat dads' the govt is doing a grand job already not pursuing them!

thesaint

Sensemaya wrote:

The answer to this is that both parents will contribute if both parents are together. But some ( not all ) NRPs move on,don't they and form other relationships and the children from the first relationship ultimately suffer.( Just like my kids and lots of other children in the same situation do ).

Even if successful I can guarantee the Order would be for a limited amount anyway.

I resent the tone of your posting. I'm a PWC. Just starting the school run,so can't elaborate further at the moment.

As for Saint's posting about 'deadbeat dads' the govt is doing a grand job already not pursuing them![/QUOTE]


I understand what the government are doing (or not) now.
The post I quoted seems to imply that the government are planning to do something in the future that is going to make it easier.

Sensemaya

As for Saint's posting about 'deadbeat dads' the govt is doing a grand job already not pursuing them![/QUOTE]


I understand what the government are doing (or not) now.
The post I quoted seems to imply that the government are planning to do something in the future that is going to make it easier.

Sorry about that, Saint. I was in a rush.

The CSA have always had the powers to pursue errant NRPs, it's just that they never use them. As for the future, will this change? I don't know. But it is already too late for many of us.

I seriously believe the govt don't know what to do with the CSA. CS2 was supposed to make everything OK. Now they are stating CS3 will....but that won't be up and running ( smoothly ) for a few years yet.

howdumbarewe!

Hi MXW hope everything is going ok with this.
A lot of people on here are of the opinion that the CSA is the way to go. In my case though it's not been very sucessfull. They have tried all they can to get maintenance for my daughter from her father. BUT, having now gone to court to get a commital the court issused a warrant for his arrest but the court are refusing to execute the warrant as the csa do not pay them enough!!!
Anyway I can understand that you get annoyed as your ex has all this money and does not want to give your boys any. My ex doesn't want to know about my daughter but he always takes his wifes kids out and they have a big house, a sports car, other cars and he only lives 2 miles away so when she is old enough to know what is going on my daughter will be able to see all this for herself. I'm not at all jealous of what they have I just feel bad for my daughter that he does not care enough to bother with her at all and flaunts everything so that when she is old enough she will be able to see and that maybe it will hurt her.
I have the utmost respect for good fathers who genuinely love and care for their children:beer: it's the one's who think that now they are no longer with the mother then the children don't matter anymore.:mad:
Good luck with this
L

MXW

Thanks for your coments, they are very much appreciated! To be honest I have been overwhelmed by the kind & caring people on this board and it has uplifted my spirits........makes me all the more determined to stand up for the rights of my children to ensure that they contine to have a roof over their heads....despite the best efforts of my ex.


A big thank you to all of you that have given me advice and kind words.


xx:T

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