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thegoodman

DUTR wrote: »

Nothing made up, both are banners which the OP clicked, they are often on free apps.
Earlier you mentioned I did not have an apple product, I have android and symbian too, seems you have egg on your face now

Please stop making things up. If you look at the photo on iPod it do not have the banner to install the app, it is empty.
As i said nothing wrong with supporting one os at any cost the google need people like you but keep to facts. Apart from android phones most other os have this protection. You may like the android os but this is the down side, it's a fact.

thegoodman

Guys_Dad wrote: »

Well, someone has to pay for this policing if it came in. Who? Google? "

All other os such as Nokia, windows phone, iPhone, blackberry have managed to protect theirs users. Most blackberry and windows phone are no more expensive than android phones. The iphone is no more expensive than the top range android phone. The blackberry is a smaller company than google still their system work. It's not about cost, it is about taking the responsibility. The after the event policy is not going to work and sooner or later google will need to change the policy to in line with other os.

DUTR

thegoodman wrote: »

Please stop making things up. If you look at the photo on iPod it do not have the banner to install the app, it is empty.
As i said nothing wrong with supporting one os at any cost the google need people like you but keep to facts. Apart from android phones most other os have this protection. You may like the android os but this is the down side, it's a fact.

Are you blind or just seeing what you want to see, the one app is showing a banner for battery update, the other is showing a banner to play free games, the banner changes, BOTH are vulnerable, nothing to do with OS and negates your protection theory. The banners are there in many free apps on itunes and the market.

thegoodman

DUTR wrote: »

Are you blind or just seeing what you want to see, the one app is showing a banner for battery update, the other is showing a banner to play free games, the banner changes, BOTH are vulnerable, nothing to do with OS and negates your protection theory. The banners are there in many free apps on itunes and the market.

On iPod or iPhone if you click on the banner it will just take you to the game website, no more. You will not be able to install the batter app on iPod or iPhones unless it have been checked for virus, also would not auto send the text. The iPod photo is not showing the battery app. Don't try to use the photo shop to prove your point.

You can support the Andorid phones as long as you want but for now this is the fact and should STOP making things up just because you like the android os? The fraud is a problem for android phones and the quicker google fix that the better for everyone.

DUTR

thegoodman wrote: »

On iPod or iPhone if you click on the banner it will just take you to the game website, no more. You will not be able to install the batter app on iPod or iPhones unless it have been checked for virus, also would not auto send the text. The iPod photo is not showing the battery app. Don't try to use the photo shop to prove your point.

You can support the Andorid phones as long as you want but for now this is the fact and should STOP making things up just because you like the android os

I'm not supporting anything, you conveniently allege that the OP was not unwise, both sytems take the operator to another site, as you can see I have both devices so it is easy to try and see what happens, the OP would have jumped through a whole host of hoops to reach the position he did.

Cash-Strapped.T32

DUTR wrote: »

Earlier you mentioned I did not have an apple product, I have android and symbian too, seems you have egg on your face now

To be fair to GoodMan, I think he was having a gentle poke at me for getting the terms for the Appstore & iTunes mixed up, not a dig at you.
All the same, I still have to disagree with his overall point that a smartphone "owes" the user something more than any other computer does.
Why should (or how could?) a smartphone by nature be any less vulnerable to the things that are a part of all computing, if we want them to be as complex, and as configurable as all other computers?


Some other posters on here have instantly picked up on the logic of what I was saying, and tbh it probably is so rarely said because it's just so obvious.

We have phones for people who don't need a fully specced computer with them all the time, or don't want to spend the same kind of time learning to use one as you spend learning how to use a desktop computer.
They're called mobile phones - The batteries last for ever, they don't need a horrible touchscreen, and they won't rack up bazillions of £££'s in charges if you don't know what you're doing.

For people who *do* need to have a baby computer on their person 24/7, we have smartphones.
The batteries last a day at best, they tend to cost a fortune for the specs of hardware they contain (albeit miniaturised) and they suffer all the same pros & cons as other computers - But you can do all the things that you can do with the computer you're using right now. How cool is that!?

That's not being elitist, or even worse - Geeky - It's just the most common of common sense imho.

DUTR

Cash-Strapped.T32 wrote: »

To be fair to GoodMan, I think he was having a gentle poke at me for getting the terms for the Appstore & iTunes mixed up, not a dig at you.
All the same, I still have to disagree with his overall point that a smartphone "owes" the user something more than any other computer does.
Why should (or how could?) a smartphone by nature be any less vulnerable to the things that are a part of all computing, if we want them to be as complex, and as configurable as all other computers?


Some other posters on here have instantly picked up on the logic of what I was saying, and tbh it probably is so rarely said because it's just so obvious.

We have phones for people who don't need a fully specced computer with them all the time, or don't want to spend the same kind of time learning to use one as you spend learning how to use a desktop computer.
They're called mobile phones - The batteries last for ever, they don't need a horrible touchscreen, and they won't rack up bazillions of £££'s in charges if you don't know what you're doing.

For people who *do* need to have a baby computer on their person 24/7, we have smartphones.
The batteries last a day at best, they tend to cost a fortune for the specs of hardware they contain (albeit miniaturised) and they suffer all the same pros & cons as other computers - But you can do all the things that you can do with the computer you're using right now. How cool is that!?

That's not being elitist, or even worse - Geeky - It's just the most common of common sense imho.

Not having a dig at you either, as you say it is about applying common sense, thegoodman often posts scare stories, in reality, any idiot can fall foul to scams on any OS, not sure why he accuses me of fabricating stuff, I posted the pics of my devices (one he said I did not have) to show what the screen shots are like. You are bright enough to know nothing is infalable, all my android apps come from the market as do all my ipod apps come from the itunes store, you get crappy apps on both stores as well as good ones, there will always be people about ready to exploit .

23n1th

thegoodman wrote: »

Please stop making things up to make the android look as safe as others. On the iPhone it would not have happen as either the advert need to install the app or gain access to the text service. The iPhone will stop both being done. That's why you don't hear this type fraud on iPhones. The blackberry, Nokia and windows phone also have the same process as iPhones. You do not see the battery app on iPod, do you?

I think you'll find that the OP had to install it first before it had access to the SMS services, which had the OP bothered to read the permissions he would have realised. If you'd bother to read the first post the OP INSTALLED it. Its not an andriod or google issue. Its a user issue.

All phones have goog and bad points, it's just that the fraud can be done just by a one click and the customer is down by just under £5.0 is not good for android or google, mainly when other os can stop this kind of things happening to their users.

Wrong again. Pot, kettle, something. Now who's making things up? Fraud can't be done with "one click". Silly silly mistaken good man.

thegoodman wrote: »

Please stop making things up. If you look at the photo on iPod it do not have the banner to install the app, it is empty.
As i said nothing wrong with supporting one os at any cost the google need people like you but keep to facts. Apart from android phones most other os have this protection. You may like the android os but this is the down side, it's a fact.

So android and google are to blame for a user insisting on installing something? I don't think so. Stop being such a drama queen.

thegoodman wrote: »

All other os such as Nokia, windows phone, iPhone, blackberry have managed to protect theirs users. Most blackberry and windows phone are no more expensive than android phones. The iphone is no more expensive than the top range android phone. The blackberry is a smaller company than google still their system work. It's not about cost, it is about taking the responsibility. The after the event policy is not going to work and sooner or later google will need to change the policy to in line with other os.

Really how have they protected them?

I'm glad you mentioned responsibility and taking some. Its my opinion that the user is responsible for what they install/want to install, its their responsibility. But then that's the sort of world we live in, people can't take responsibility for their own actions and need someone else to blame. "Why should I look where I'm walking? It's your fault I tripped over."

Now just because you like a company to tell you what to do, when to do it, how to do it, and why you like to do it doesn't mean that works for everyone. Personally I'm not that lazy or stupid.

wantmemoney

http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/60053

Ripped off from SMS
28 Dec 2011
downloaded an app called "Battery Upgrade" then sent sms automatically subscribed me to My Mobile SMS and charged 4 pounds for 2 weeks. sent sms "STOP" to 60053. Total cost 4 pounds 20p on T-mobile. Need to send "STOP" otherwise it will charge you 4 pounds every two weeks

This is a scam and a malware, Android users beware!!!!!
Call Type: SMS

this is what was being 'signed up' to

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thegoodman

This is anohter scam people need to be aware of on Android Phones:
Users of mobile devices running Google’s OS may have to literally check the fine print if they want to avoid a new scam using popular apps to trick them into downloading rogue apps.

Computer security firm Trend Micro said the scammers use developer names that appear “quite similar” to the original developers.

In a blog post, Trend Micro cited a scammer using the popular game “Angry Birds” where the rogue app’s developer is listed as Rovio MobiIe – where the “L” in “Mobile” is actually an “I.”

“It is quite tricky and easy to miss. Users would really have to check the developer’s name closely on the ‘More from developer’ tab to see the real name,” it said.

Trend Micro also said the names and icons used for the apps were taken from other existing apps.

Once the user tries to install any of the apps listed under “rovio mobiie ltd,” the app will display an image also taken from the original app that has been modified to include text telling the user to click the link to complete the installation.

This will lead to a webpage that the user needs to fill up to unlock the “full version,” but it ends up redirecting users to advertisements.

It noted the popularity of the game “Temple Run” was used to trick users before, and this time, the reputation of the app developer Rovio Mobile Ltd. was used.

“We expect that more cybercriminals will continue with this method, so it is very important for users to be informed of how they can avoid being victimized,”
Full link:
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/247513/scitech/technology/trend-micro-new-trending-scams-seen-in-android-market