Slightly OT, but bear with me...

lostinrates

LydiaJ wrote: »

If you do the MBTI "properly" - ie pay someone to do it with you, then the questionnaire is just the beginning, because the way people answer is biassed by all sorts of things other than their underlying innate preferences. You get a session to explore whether the things that the questionnaire has indicated are actually your real preferences or not, and the final decision of which profile best fits you is down to you, not the computer.

If most of it seems to fit apart from the conflict-avoidance, try reading the descriptors for ENTJ and see if they're a better fit.

Thanks, that helps me understand it better. I have done this test a few times, and find them very hard, because my answers are rarely accurate.....the questions are too absolute. thus my personality profile is different, a bit, eaxh time. Dh did it last might and it was fascinating to see someone else doit, how they reason and their view of themselves, which might not be how others see them.

E.g. Not very many people who do not feel aware of the autistic spectrum would answer they are unsympathetic i would guess? I am not personally unsympathetic but think i could appear so in a work situation....so even though i might ache for someone i still might expect them to follow a protocol, or make a phone call before breaking down for example. I am not sure where that would put me on a sympathetic scale. I might feel more for them than someone who is outwardly more sympathitic iyswim.

Dh came out as infp iirc. Which puts music and archaeology in his careers, one was he studied the other. It missed crucil parts of his make up though, and i felt he answered some of the questions very differently to how i would have answered them if doing it for him. Oh, his famous peope in clude mary, mother of god. We were in stitches of laughter last night!

tyllwyd

I came out ISTJ, but I'm not sure how much that reflects the real me and the career that would suit me, or the side of my personality that is brought out by my career (working from home, on my own, on projects that need obsessive attention to detail). I think if I had a more social job, I would feel more confident about answering the social questions in a positive way.

vivatifosi

This time round I'm ENFJ. Every time before I've done it I've been ENTP so quite a change.

ETA.... mmm, have read the profile, I think I'm still more ENTP than ENFJ, though working with the public may have made me more feeling than before. My E and N are very pronounced scores but the F and J are weak, so I can see that potentially they could change.

ETA (again).... Tried again this morning and am now an ENFP. That is more like me than ENFJ. There are a few questions that I'm quite indifferent to and I think these are where the swing is happening.

Davesnave

INTJ.

Apparently, I could have been a decent librarian or stood in for Hannibal (the elephant one, not the one that ate people )

What a waste! :rotfl:

michaels

ENTJ but TBH the E, T ad J are all close enough to the middle to have gone either way and I am far from sure I answered truthfully - lots of 'yes/no' questions when I wanted to answer sometimes or may be or that is what I aim for but don't always achieve it. In the past I have done similar tests which reveal I am not an attention to detail person nor a completer/finisher, obviuosly if I was completing a test for a job application I might try and skew this result.

Road_Hog

I think the connection to a job/career needs to be taken with a pinch of salt.

Very few of us ever choose our career path, most of us 'fall' into our jobs. It is only the very lucky or those with true foresight that end up with the job of their dreams, the rest of us settle for drudgery.

I've done a myriad of jobs in my lifetime, a small selection is the following. A forklift driver, fairly mundane, but you don't take your job home with you and doing wheelies in gas powered forklifts is fun (they're probably all limited now so that you can't do that anymore).

Despatch rider in London, it was well paid, £250 a week in 1986, but somewhat dangerous (especially in winter) and I only got kncoked off my back 6 times in the 18 months I was doing it. But you didn't have a boss (self employed) and during the summer, cruising down New Bond Street looking at all the posh totty was great, Kind of The Road stuff.

Area manager for a top 50 international company. Money was great, new car every 3 months, BUPA etc. but it sucked the life out of me and with mobile phones and email on the corporate connection at home it was 24/7, no respite. I used to live for the weekends and even then they weren't mine, I used to have to logon to see what emails had been sent over the weekend, all marked read receipt.

All jobs can be very different, it depends on the environment and culture. One thing I'll always remember is a phrase said by a well known motivational speaker who came to do a presentation at my old company and I'll paraphrase it because I can't remember it exactly.

But it was something like, "nobody on their deathbed ever says, I wish I'd spent more time at work".

lostinrates

Road_Hog wrote: »

I think the connection to a job/career needs to be taken with a pinch of salt.

Very few of us ever choose our career path, most of us 'fall' into our jobs. It is only the very lucky or those with true foresight that end up with the job of their dreams, the rest of us settle for drudgery.

I've done a myriad of jobs in my lifetime, a small selection is the following. A forklift driver, fairly mundane, but you don't take your job home with you and doing wheelies in gas powered forklifts is fun (they're probably all limited now so that you can't do that anymore).

Despatch rider in London, it was well paid, £250 a week in 1986, but somewhat dangerous (especially in winter) and I only got kncoked off my back 6 times in the 18 months I was doing it. But you didn't have a boss (self employed) and during the summer, cruising down New Bond Street looking at all the posh totty was great, Kind of The Road stuff.

Area manager for a top 50 international company. Money was great, new car every 3 months, BUPA etc. but it sucked the life out of me and with mobile phones and email on the corporate connection at home it was 24/7, no respite. I used to live for the weekends and even then they weren't mine, I used to have to logon to see what emails had been sent over the weekend, all marked read receipt.

All jobs can be very different, it depends on the environment and culture. One thing I'll always remember is a phrase said by a well known motivational speaker who came to do a presentation at my old company and I'll paraphrase it because I can't remember it exactly.

But it was something like, "nobody on their deathbed ever says, I wish I'd spent more time at work".

Some people do genuinely love what they get paid for. My f i l good have afforded to retire years ago, but loves his job. He once said that he gets paid to read the books he wants to read. Sounds brilliant to me.

Dh and i both chose at one point, jobs based on what we like to do, the opposite happened for us in one way or another....we started to dislike our facourite activities.

julieq

Seems like a good moment for a little careers advice:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5snIxUBVjw

JonnyBravo

ENTJ

Moderately E
Very strongly N
Moderately T
Strongly J


Blue.

bugslet

ENFJ, but only just a J, very much an E and a N.

20 years ago I would have come out as definitely an I and even now I can answer the E/I questions truthfully both ways.

Road-hog - spent 5 years as a forkie, great fun and good lessons in dealing with people, calming them down, getting them to do what you want.