Are free school meals going to be included in benefits cap?

DorsetGirl_2

You talk about how one parent should be at home with no breakfast clubs so the children cannot be abandoned.
Then you suggest that children should walk to school by themselves, so have they not been abandoned?

Dognobs

DorsetGirl wrote: »

You talk about how one parent should be at home with no breakfast clubs so the children cannot be abandoned.
Then you suggest that children should walk to school by themselves, so have they not been abandoned?

My 3 kids feel 'abandoned' everyday they walk to school!!!

Lucky I am there waiting when they get home with a warm welcome and a nice meal!

DorsetGirl_2

How old are they?

FBaby

Let's see....
Take home salary £2,000
Mortgage (3 bed-semi SE) £800
Car (to go to work) £250 (include loan, repairs, MOT, etc...)
Petrol £200
various insurance £100
Food for 5 £200
School diners/trips/clothes/shoes x 3 kids £150
CT: £120
Gas and electricity/water: £120

Add CB you spend 1 or 2 activities per kid per month...

Oh dear, there's nothing left..... and that's already with a decent salary...

Yep, it was easy in the 50s, when mortgage were peanuts compared to what they are now...

Vejovis

heathcote123 wrote: »

I'd bet 90% of them are.

have you got some proof of that?

Cherry_Bomb

Dognobs wrote: »

They should close all the after school clubs and breakfast clubs this just makes it easy to abandon kids!

You're an idiot. That is all.

bloomingflower

Dognobs wrote: »

My wife works in a school and it is a sad reflection that a school meal be it free or paid for is the only hot meal that child will get that day. You find alot of parents working first one to drop their kids off last ones to pick them up and too busy to cook at home. My sons primary school this got SO bad they open the gates for breakfast club lock them up and open them 10 mins befroe school.

This will sound realy bad and old fashoned but there is alot to be said about a stay at home parent. Kids need two parents FACT, people give up too easy on relationships these days! There are diffrent things a mum and dad can offer kids, as well as support for each other. In ideal world one should be the bread winner the other stay at home and look after the children I understand the two parents need to work we are the same however we have made it that I work very early mornings and home by 11am (my last few jobs all finnished by then) and my wife is there for breakfast bit. I clean the house and cook the evening meal. This has worked for us very well over the years and there is always someone home for the kids with time for the kids because all the work is done.

They should close all the after school clubs and breakfast clubs this just makes it easy to abandon kids!



I have read this thread with much interest!

Your post has raised some very good questions!

However, here's the thing, if they closed all breakfast and after school clubs etc,then would this not be detrimental to working parents?

Gone are the days where you could find a 9 to 5 job! (Dolly Parton style!!) they don't really exist any more as most jobs are a 7- 7.30 start in the morning. Or maybe even earlier! If you have little ones or have older children that go to primary school the parents highly depend on these sorts of clubs to drop off their kids and then go to work.

I know some work colleagues who give their children breakfast before being dropped off at the club. They don't necessarily have to have breakfast there. The club is also used for other activities too and it is some where safe for them to be before they start school and while their parents are rushing off to work. I don't see it as 'abandoning the kids' to paraphrase your response.

Both me and my husband start work at 7.30 every morning, but we are fortunate to have a 17 year-old who walks her 11 year old sister to school before she goes off to college.

There are a lot of parents who are not that fortunate such as single parents who don't have some form of alternative support and have to rely on these clubs.

DorsetGirl_2

But Dognos thinks that parents shouldnt be single - even if your spouse is a cheater, a criminal, abusive or just ups and leaves one day you have to make it work!

*tongue firmly in cheek*

Dognobs

People are missing my point, we managed without these clubs 20 years ago so why do we need them now?

The point I am making is people seem too busy for there kids now, Are you telling me that the morals and opions we have now are better than the 50's? There needs to be a healthy balance. My wife is the main breadwinner in my home I have no problem with that infact I am now going on a 3 hour cleaning frenzy that i do every friday so it keeps the weekend clear. I am all for equality but we are not all equal that is a fact.

Teenagers punting out kids that they don't know who the dad is are you saying this is good for the UK? While trying to live a single lifestyle and given the undeserved interpendance of a flat and benifits just causes problems.

National service was a very good thing it turned boys into men.

I am not saying I want to go back to the 50's so I dont want a list of the bad points but a happy medium between the two would be nice!

MissMoneypenny

DorsetGirl wrote: »

How old are they?

I let my son walk to school without me and on his own, when he was 10.

I don't get this 'not letting children walk': and it isn't new either, although it does seem to be getting worse. Walking is so good for children.

When my children got home from walking to and from primary school, we all then walked our dogs' (one each) on a 3.6 mile ramble. I clocked it because one of the fat childrens parents' was amazed at how far my children walked. Mine also walked the mile in the evenings to cubs and brownies too and then the mile home again, but I walked with them to that.

Now in their 20s, they are fit and lean, play sports and know how the correct food acts as a fuel and how the body needs exercise.