Squashed cramped homes-how do people manage sharing cramped conditions?

breadlinebetty

FireWyrm wrote: »

£142K for a 3/4 bed terrace in Daventry...just 10 miles from either the M40 or M1...and close links for rail to London. £80K is probably further north, but I was seeing similar numbers in Swindon and the outskirts of Corby.

Maybe........but what you're forgetting is the WORK situation. Most jobs are in London and the south east. No-one wants to get up at the crack of dawn to catch the train into London, and then spend another 2/3 hours getting home mid evening!:eek:

Then you have to factor in TRAVEL COSTS!

So living up north isn't an option for many people. On top of which, the weather's colder and bleaker up north.....and with so many people out of work there's an air of deprivation in many places. It's depressing.

breadlinebetty

Eton_Rifle wrote: »

Ninety minutes or so on a train has always been a quite acceptable solution for a huge number of people.

I've done it myself and it can actually be quite pleasant.

Most commuters would disagree with you.

Your 90 minute journey wouldn't be 90 minutes door to door, you have to add on the time it takes for you to get to the train station (do you walk, bus it, or drive? car park fees at station?) then the time it takes the other end, especially if you then have to transfer from the train to a tube!:(

Then you have all the train cancellations, late ones etc. Standing on a crowded platform in the cold, wind, rain or snow is not pleasant by anyone's standards. And once on the train you have to hunt for a seat being rush hour......

And how much are your travel costs each year!:eek: They must take a HUGE chunk out of your wages!!!

A 90 minute train journey means you're commuting for about 4 hours a day, and that is tiring, tedious, expensive and life-sapping. And you're talking just 90 minutes - some people's train journeys are much longer than that - maybe 3 hours or more!:eek:

Running_Horse

breadlinebetty wrote: »

no-one can buy in London unless they're extremely comfortable!

Has there ever been a time when poor people could easily buy property in London? That's why they built all those council estates.

Most people who move to London after leaving home realise this, and head for the Home Counties where a house can be bought for less than £100,000 an hour from London:
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/find.html?locationIdentifier=REGION%5E61277&sortByPriceDescending=false&minPrice=80000&maxPrice=100000&minBedrooms=2&maxBedrooms=3&displayPropertyType=houses&oldDisplayPropertyType=houses

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9 of us lived in a 3 bed terrace in liverpool, 5 girls shared a room. Actually, it was brilliant, so much fun and chatting. The nightmare was for my mother, having to get washing done via a tiny kitchnette and a small yard. Our parents were aspirational and we all grew up to have good professional careers and lifelong marriages and I speak as a 60+ year old. None of us expected the government to spoon feed us

nuttyp

i have been lucky enough to get a LA house to rent, its a 2 bed but my girls are 5 yrs apart so we put in a temp partition tp make a 3 bed.............. and they still end up in each others ens of the room. Definatley bring the kids closer when they haveto share, and they appreciate each other. I consider myself very lucky. Our house is quite spacious.

gingergee

I have 4 kids, 3 girls 1 boy. We live in quite a large 3 bed semi. The kids share like this; oldest and youngest together (both girls), Then middle 2 together. We are thinking of building a summer house cos our garden is very large. Then they could have sleepovers etc, thats the only thing the kids moan about. They cant have friends over. But we manage otherwise, in fact i think its fun cramming together!! x

warehouse

Ha ha. You're all getting wound up by a Daily Mail article. Priceless.

FireWyrm

breadlinebetty wrote: »

Maybe........but what you're forgetting is the WORK situation. Most jobs are in London and the south east. No-one wants to get up at the crack of dawn to catch the train into London, and then spend another 2/3 hours getting home mid evening!:eek:

Then you have to factor in TRAVEL COSTS!

So living up north isn't an option for many people. On top of which, the weather's colder and bleaker up north.....and with so many people out of work there's an air of deprivation in many places. It's depressing.

What is it with people believing the myth that there are no jobs up here? I've managed my entire career without needing to troop into London for work, in fact, I've been to London half a dozen times in my life. Yes, it's hard work having to commute an hour to work in Oxford, but there are other options, like working from home perhaps. As the prices rise in London, this is going to have to be the way. As you say, no one can afford it. However, my home town of Milton Keynes is just 10 miles down the road and there are plenty of jobs there, likewise, Oxford, Birmingham and all points along either the M1 or M40, neither of which is far. It's a complete myth that only those living in London are gainfully employed and the rest of us are living off the state. I've never had a problem getting a job, it's all a matter of perspective and what you're willing to do for it. I remember my father being gone for days on end as a travelling salesman, it was necessary to keep us clothed and fed. Most of my friends Dads were the same and believe me, times were far tougher back in the 80s.

I'd like a job on my doorstep but it has never been the case for the majority if the country. In the case of house prices, I have a house that most Londoners could only dream of but the trade off is I have to work a little harder for it in terms of time and effort. I don't see myself as being deprived because I don't live in a bustling city, in fact, I loath London as a general rule...too many people in too much of a hurry...now that's stress! I had to go to Kensington last week for a meeting and by the time I'd made it from Marylebone to Kensignton, done a days work and got back again, I was exhausted, dirty, hungry and about ready to go postal on the next person who shoved me in the ribs. I still have a cough from the traffic fumes and I couldn't stop sneezing for 24 hours afterwards. How on earth anyone lives there I don't know. Give me the rolling green fields any day.

mjdh1957

I was born in London and left in 1977 when I was 19. I've had jobs in various parts of the UK and since 1988 I've been self-employed and work from home, also in various parts of the UK. Wild horses couldn't drag me back to live in London....

There is life and work beyond the M25 ring!

propertyman

It is a myth that " we have never had it so good" that started in the 60's, and with brief interruption of the 70's continued on the 80's, another stumble in the 90's, growth in the 00's that crashed in in 06/7.

The 60's was funded by state expansion massive borrowing that fell under left wing entitlement demands, the 80's on masses of private debt when the subsidy was removed, and the 00's on the failure of the unholy marriage of the personal debt, investment banking underpinned by state subsidy & guarantees, and privatised public sector debt spending.

This is the by product of 60 years of relative freedom from war and diseases. We look back on mythical better past infused with our then expectations and wonder why it didn't materialise.

And then look for someone to blame and some, their local riot assembly point....