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Loo overflowing into pan. Help solving please?

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  • Mrs_Arcanum
    Mrs_Arcanum Posts: 23,976 Forumite
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    Just had a feel round and there seems to be a small leak from the inlet pipe. Very awkward to get at so looks like a water off & drain the system job :(
    Truth always poses doubts & questions. Only lies are 100% believable, because they don't need to justify reality. - Carlos Ruiz Zafon, The Labyrinth of the Spirits
  • That could be condensation if it's mains fed
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  • Mrs_Arcanum
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    If its actually on the floor it is the doughnut washer thats faulty. A big washer the size of your fist that goes between the toilet and cistern that sits on top. Or the water on the floor is condensation caused by the continuous flow of cold water into the cistern OR both.


    You need to firmly establish why the water is going into the pan. Are you sure its down the overflow? If so the fill valve needs adjusting or it needs a new washer etc.

    If its not the overflow it is most certainly the flush cartridge washer or the whole cartridge that needs sorting
    What seems to happen is the water in the cistern is slowly flowing into the loo pan & then the float valve starts up for a few seconds until the cistern is full again.

    The cistern never gets more than a couple of centimetres of water lower than the float before the filler kicks in.
    Truth always poses doubts & questions. Only lies are 100% believable, because they don't need to justify reality. - Carlos Ruiz Zafon, The Labyrinth of the Spirits
  • Just had a feel round and there seems to be a small leak from the inlet pipe. Very awkward to get at so looks like a water off & drain the system job :(


    I suspect (but cant be sure) the stuff on the floor is condensation & maybe a bit through the doughnut washer as its having a constant flow going past ( they are not designed for that because the are mostly a foam type material).

    However, of you have been playing with the fill valve you can knock these out of position & you could have a leak down there to.

    If I was you I would get someone in to see it who knows. Any mates or relatives that can see exactly how that water is entering the pan & knows about condensation?

    One more question...... Is there water on the bottom of the screws underneath?
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  • What seems to happen is the water in the cistern is slowly flowing into the loo pan & then the float valve starts up for a few seconds until the cistern is full again.

    The cistern never gets more than a couple of centimetres of water lower than the float before the filler kicks in.


    Screw the float down & try to get it to stop filling all together.

    Object of exercise is to work out if that one part is faulty or not.
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  • Mrs_Arcanum
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    Screw the float down & try to get it to stop filling all together.

    Object of exercise is to work out if that one part is faulty or not.

    It is fully screwed down. Anything else causes the water on the floor :think:

    I do suspect one problem may be the big washer as the fat pipe thing in the middle is loose.
    Truth always poses doubts & questions. Only lies are 100% believable, because they don't need to justify reality. - Carlos Ruiz Zafon, The Labyrinth of the Spirits
  • The bit in the middle of the cistern turns 90* and clicks into place. If this isn't clicked into place it won't make a seal and cause water to constantly flow into the pan. Try turning it to make sure it's seale properly.
    Lightbulb Moment 17/09/2006
  • It is fully screwed down. Anything else causes the water on the floor :think:

    I do suspect one problem may be the big washer as the fat pipe thing in the middle is loose.


    I suspect there is an issue there to. But it is not the main problem & may be ok if there wasnt another problem.

    In the picture the float is up on the fill valve. You need to screw it down flush & see if the water stops filling or not.....

    Screw it the other way.. The float needs to lower...
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  • The bit in the middle of the cistern turns 90* and clicks into place. If this isn't clicked into place it won't make a seal and cause water to constantly flow into the pan. Try turning it to make sure it's seale properly.


    Hang fire on that. First things first. No offence. But once the op works out if the fill valve is faulty, yours is the next step.
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  • Hang fire on that. First things first. No offence. But once the op works out if the fill valve is faulty, yours is the next step.

    Yes totally agree, I thought the op had already moved on from the fill valve.
    Lightbulb Moment 17/09/2006
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