Is this offer from T-mobile worth me staying another 24 months with them?

timberflake

grumbler wrote: »

And how are you in a better position than the OP unless you need a very basic handset?
The OP gets Desire S and airtime for 24x£8=£192. This is much less than the phone costs sim-free or on PAYG.

IMO T-mobile are crazy to offer such deals. Their only hope is that the OP spends more than their monthly allowance.

How am I in better position? By not being tied into a 2 year contract!

I'm not saying it's not a good deal, it is, but a 24 month contract for me is a deal breaker, I like the freedom of not being tied to a contract and I like a brand spanking new handset every 12 months!

grumbler

timberflake wrote: »

How am I in better position? By not being tied into a 2 year contract!

Assuming that the OP does want Desire S, they are not tied either. They can just pay the remaining months out whenever they want and go away.

I like the freedom of not being tied to a contract and I like a brand spanking new handset every 12 months!

If the OP decides to change the handset in 12 months and assuming that the consumed airtime costs 12x£5, the current hanset will ultimately cost them just 12x(£8-£5)+12x£8=£122 minus the selling price of Desire S in 12 months, [STRIKE]i.e. close to nothing. They are likely even to make some profit after using it for 12 months and then selling it.[/STRIKE]

timberflake

grumbler wrote: »

Assuming that the OP does want Desire S, they are not tied either. They can just pay the remaining months out whenever they want and go away.

If the OP decides to change the handset in 12 months the current one will cost them just 12x£8=£96 minus the selling price of Desire S in 12 months.

For the OP this might be a great deal and they may well be happy with their phone/tariff for 24 months, I was simply saying that I don't like 24 month contracts as I like to upgrade at my leisure, and liking top of the line phones means I'm better to not be on a contract.

grumbler

timberflake wrote: »

For the OP this might be a great deal and they may well be happy with their phone/tariff for 24 months, I was simply saying that I don't like 24 month contracts

Liking or disliking is just an emotion.

as I like to upgrade at my leisure, and liking top of the line phones means I'm better to not be on a contract.

Prove this with figures.
Starting point for you and the OP is the same: new Desire S today.
You pay, say, £280 without a contract.
The OP pays nothing with 24x£8 contract.
Prove that in 12 months after upgrading to a "brand spanking new handset" you are better off than the OP.

I have to admit that I made an error in my calculations in the post above (corrected now)

timberflake

grumbler wrote: »

Liking or disliking is just an emotion.
Prove this with figures.
Starting point for you and the OP is the same: new Desire S today.
You pay, say, £280 without a contract.
The OP pays nothing with 24x£8 contract.
Prove that in 12 months after upgrading to a "brand spanking new handset" you are better off than the OP.

I have to admit that I made an error in my calculations in the post above (corrected now)

Ok, if I must.

I've bought a iPhone 4GS @ £499.00, and I'm paying £10 a month for 250 mins, unlimited texts and unlimited internet, so £740 over a 24 month term.

On O2 for example, on a comparable tariff I would pay £31 per month for 200 mins, unlimited texts and 1gb of internet + £249.99 for the phone, so £994 over a 24 month term.

So, I save £250 over 24 months.

Now, if I want to upgrade in 12 months, I can put the £21 I'm saving each month compared to O2's tariff in the bank so £252 over 12 months + around £250 for my 4GS = Approximately £500 towards a new handset every 12 months.

So I can either save £250 over 24 months, or pay the exact same as the O2 tariff and have a new handset every 12 months with being tied into a contract.

grumbler

timberflake wrote: »

Ok, if I must.

I've bought a iPhone 4GS @ £499.00, and I'm paying £10 a month for 250 mins, unlimited texts and unlimited internet, so £740 over a 24 month term.

On O2 for example, on a comparable tariff I would pay £31 per month for 200 mins, unlimited texts and 1gb of internet + £249.99 for the phone, so £994 over a 24 month term.

So, I save £250 over 24 months.

Now, if I want to upgrade in 12 months, I can put the £21 I'm saving each month compared to O2's tariff in the bank so £252 over 12 months + around £250 for my 4GS = Approximately £500 towards a new handset every 12 months.

So I can either save £250 over 24 months, or pay the exact same as the O2 tariff and have a new handset every 12 months with being tied into a contract.

As you replied originally to the OP you have to prove that the OP can do better by buying Desire S outright, like you do.

It makes no sense to compare to any O2 tariffs as the OP is not with O2.
Your savings make no difference either and just add confusion to the comparison.

Assuming that you can sell your iPhone for £XXX in 12 months, it costs you £500-£XXX=£YYY to enjoy it for 12 months as against £122-£ZZZ for the OP, but I understand that iPhone is probably a better phone. That's why my suggestion was to compare Desire S to Desire S.

In this case it would cost you £280-£ZZZ as against £122-£ZZZ for the OP. As simple as that.

gizzi.n.lemon

The 24 month contract is definately the better option. No large outright payment and although you are tied to 24 months in 12 months time you can sell your phone and put that money towards purchasing a new phone SIM free. Although I can see what timberflake is trying to say I feel they are assuming that taking the 24 month contract naturally ties you to just one handset when infact you would be free to change your handsets at any stage. It just means T-Mobile won't subsidise the cost of a phone until your renewal date.

owen1978

gizzi.n.lemon wrote: »

The 24 month contract is definately the better option. No large outright payment and although you are tied to 24 months in 12 months time you can sell your phone and put that money towards purchasing a new phone SIM free. Although I can see what timberflake is trying to say I feel they are assuming that taking the 24 month contract naturally ties you to just one handset when infact you would be free to change your handsets at any stage. It just means T-Mobile won't subsidise the cost of a phone until your renewal date.

You explained it a lot more elegantly, im tied to 24 month contract paying pittance but it gives the minunes & data that I need.

And when I want a new phone I just buy a sim free phone/2nd hand....

Fatima10

Thanks everyone for the feed back. :)


I really wanted samsung galaxy s2 and i asked them to offer me deal with it. after trying couple times. I was offered the same tariff with the Samsung galaxy s2 . For £10 a month and I pay towards the phone £110 with delivery it comes to £117.50.

I think its good deal, what do you guys think?by the way the other offer was for £8.51 a month not £8.

Fatima10

Fatima10 wrote: »

Thanks everyone for the feed back. :)


I really wanted samsung galaxy s2 and i asked them to offer me deal with it. after trying couple times. I was offered the same tariff with the Samsung galaxy s2 . For £10 a month and I pay towards the phone £110 with delivery it comes to £117.50.

I think its good deal, what do you guys think?by the way the other offer was for £8.51 a month not £8.

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