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  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
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    The Greek Parliament has voted through the deal, although once again they missed the deadline for acceptance so technically everything is up for renegotiation.
  • Moto2
    Moto2 Posts: 2,206 Forumite
    One Greek politician pretty much summed it up for me

    Harry Theoharris, of the centrist To Potami party, said that 10 years from now students would be studying the events of today and “how we shot ourselves and then started whining for a disability benefit.”

    Although, I suspect 10 years is massively optimistic
    Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine.
  • wymondham
    wymondham Posts: 6,356 Forumite
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    I'm not sure I'm understanding this... so last week the people voted NO, but yesterday the Government voted YES .... so why have the referendum? Surely doing this is the best way to angry the population and cause unrest.. is this the end game??


    I'm guessing here also that the can has just been kicked again!
  • remorseless
    remorseless Posts: 1,221 Forumite
    hopefully we will not see the same scenes in few years (or sooner) time for bailout #4.

    at least it is clear now that Greece doesn't want it, most of EZ had enuff!
    All just to keep the EUR cause they have no other option!!!!

    hopefully Greece won't be rest on their laurels this time and actually work to fix at the very least the trust issue!!!!

    Then again, IMF could pull the plug before it happens :eek:
  • wotsthat
    wotsthat Posts: 11,325 Forumite
    wymondham wrote: »

    I'm guessing here also that the can has just been kicked again!

    Not very far.

    The Greek parliament have approved austerity measures but these were just a pre-condition for negotiations on another bailout to commence.
  • antrobus
    antrobus Posts: 17,386 Forumite
    ...when Latvia had to cut spending:

    Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and Slovakia have long insisted they are too poor to pay for the mistakes made by wealthier Greece

    http://www.ekathimerini.com/199040/article/ekathimerini/news/eurozones-poorer-nations-take-hard-line-on-greece

    Slovenia will insist on Greece continuing with the restructuring and continuing to meet its obligations to Slovenia as well as international institutions

    http://www.sloveniatimes.com/slovenia-insists-on-greece-honouring-its-commitments
  • remorseless
    remorseless Posts: 1,221 Forumite
    antrobus wrote: »
    Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and Slovakia have long insisted they are too poor to pay for the mistakes made by wealthier Greece

    http://www.ekathimerini.com/199040/article/ekathimerini/news/eurozones-poorer-nations-take-hard-line-on-greece

    Slovenia will insist on Greece continuing with the restructuring and continuing to meet its obligations to Slovenia as well as international institutions

    http://www.sloveniatimes.com/slovenia-insists-on-greece-honouring-its-commitments

    Can you blame them? Baltic states don't really have 'social' services and expect their citizen to fend for themselves!

    Look at Estonia: "The daily rate of the unemployment benefit is established by the State Budget Act as 4.01 euros for 2015."

    That is not 'austerity', it is normal... and Sunday trading is there, and you can also buy OTC meds at their supermarket!
  • Yolina
    Yolina Posts: 2,262 Forumite
    edited 16 July 2015 at 10:16AM

    hopefully Greece won't be rest on their laurels this time and actually work to fix at the very least the trust issue!!!!

    Oh look, a unicorn....

    Maybe by the time we get to bailout #4, there will be a plan in place to boot them out just in case ;)
    Now free from the incompetence of vodafail
  • cepheus
    cepheus Posts: 20,053 Forumite
    German Company is Top Tax Evader in Greece
    It is estimated that Hochtief, will have to pay more than 500 million Euros for VAT arrears. Together with other outstanding payments, like those to social security funds, it might have to pay more than 1 billion Euros. It must be noted that under the “Troika” austerity programme Greek employees lost around 400 million Euros from cuts to their salaries.

    http://fb.me/7urR0Zqy5
  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
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    cepheus wrote: »
    German Company is Top Tax Evader in Greece



    http://fb.me/7urR0Zqy5

    I'm not sure you can hold Angela Merkel responsible for the actions of every German person and company.

    It's a bit ironic but it's hardly symptomatic of Germany trying to undermine the Greek tax base in a systematic way in order to force a cheap asset sale or some such.
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