Pit bull terriers

Jay_Tee

Person_one wrote: »

Ok, here's the thing. Its not the breed that has the issue, its the humans and banning breeds doesn't make the issues go away so its a pointless exercise.

They banned pitbulls so the idiots get staffies.

If you ban staffies the idiots will get rotties.

If you ban rotties the idiots will get GSDs.

If you ban GSDs the idiots will get Huskies.

If you ban Huskies the idiots will get mastiffs.

If you get mastiffs the idiots will get Great Danes.

If you ban Great Danes the idiots will get Shar Peis.

etc etc etc.

Do you see where I'm going with this?

I can see where you're going with this, but the ultimate result is if you remove the ban instead of seeing loads of Staffies we'll see loads of Pit Bulls with people who can't control them, even more back street breeding of them, so even more of the idiots can own them.

I think we need to be realistic or we'll get legislation like Germany with this list of restricted dogs:

Cat.1) Banned Breeds

American Staffordshire Terrier

Pitbull Terrier

Staffordshire Bull Terrier

Bull Terrier

Neopolitan Mastiff

Spanish Mastiff

Dogue de Bordeux

Dogo Argentino

Fila Brasileiro

Roman Fighting Dog

Chinese Fighting Dog

Bandog

Tosa Inu

Cat.2) Breeds with restrictions placed on ownership breeding etc

Akbash

Briard

Beauceron

Bullmastiff

Dobermann

Estrela Mountain Dog

Komondor

Kuvasz

Maremma

Mastiff

Pyrenean Mastiff

Pyrenean Mountain Dog

Rottweiler

Tibetan Mastiff

and 15 other European herding breeds

And the EU have move afoot to harmonise German restrictions across the EU

faerie~spangles

Would someone kindly tell me the name of the tv prog'?

marleyboy

All dogs can be dangerous, it isn't so much the dogs to blame as their owners. As far as I am aware, Pit Bulls were specifically bred for fighting, which is why it appears they are singling out the Pit Bull over other dogs.

A dog cannot help what breed it is, nor can it help what it is bred to do. Those who train such breeds to kill, should themselves be put down or made to face a pack of them in a cage.

marleyboy

faerie~spangles wrote: »

Would someone kindly tell me the name of the tv prog'?

Is it Crufts??? :D

Person_one

VitaK wrote: »

One of the issues with Pit bull terriers is that they are more likely to cause severe harm if they attack. Its not only the jaw strength its the way the Pit bull bite that is the difference to other breeds. The "Hold and Shake" bite style.

All dogs 'hold and shake', even my toy poodle does that.

D&DD

http://www.doggroups.com/community/banned-dogs-in-germany/

Is this a legit site where the list came from Jaytee,just asking as it lists golden retrievers too
and hairless dogs???

Blimey if they bring in these rules my park will be deserted :rotfl:

moi68

Dogs On Deathrow

Kinski

faerie~spangles wrote: »

Would someone kindly tell me the name of the tv prog'?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01bbvfk/Death_Row_Dogs/

orlao

The reason there are still Pit Bulls in this country is that the law refers to dogs of 'Pit Bull' type. There are various measurements and guidelines (sorry, I don't know exactly what they) to define an illegal dog which means that a xbreed ie staff x a longer legged breed can easily be judged to be that type. In those cases the court may allow you to keep your dog, usually after temperament tests under very strict conditions.

As someone who has a rottie I have to admit that I'm very anti breed specific legislation for obvious reasons although I would support stricter laws as long as they applied to all dogs and owners (as more often than not it's the owner that is the problem!)

Jojo_the_Tightfisted

D&#8517 wrote: »

Agree with this..apart from idiots owning Shar peis lolol

It was really hard to watch that but they are right to highlight the problems with the Act.

Seeing as the Shar Pei was originally bred as a fighting dog, and the folds were encouraged as it made severe wounding from bites less likely, are you sure about this?

One lived round the corner from me when I was in a council flat. Definitely an idiot - she bred full SPs for the money and crossed with Bull types for the 'other' market. Mid to late 1990s, and I think it was also to increase the incidence of 'blues' in the 'other' market.