Pit bull terriers

vicx

I noticed on the news website that the boys mother had wrote a letter to the MP calling for tougher dog laws which would see them muzzled both in public places and in owners homes.

She said: "They should be muzzled around children under 12 because children over 12 can understand the dog's body language a bit more."

She has received a reply from David Cameron, who said her proposals would be "taken into consideration".


The Grandmother suffered bites to her legs and body as she tried to fight off the dog and rescue her grandson.

She walked free from court. She was given a 4 month sentence suspended for 18 month and banned for keeping dogs for life. The boys uncle was sentenced to 4 months in prison. It seems a short sentence for keeping and breeding a dangerous/banned dog which has taken the life of a young boy.

Jay_Tee

con1888 wrote: »

We ban carrying them. But they aren't banned in total like pitbulls are. Like it has been said the dogs are banned as a knee-jerk reaction. Just as banning all knives would be as thugs would move on to hammers, metal poles, same as banning certain dogs causes the idiots to move on to different breeds. It isn't a resolution.

The levels of knife crime and the number of pit bulls show that the people involved don't move on to other weapons or breeds of dog, because they just ignore the law.

Would making pit bulls legal make their lives better? No because they would still be owned by unsuitable people.

mumps

vicx wrote: »

I noticed on the news website that the boys mother had wrote a letter to the MP calling for tougher dog laws which would see them muzzled both in public places and in owners homes.

She said: "They should be muzzled around children under 12 because children over 12 can understand the dog's body language a bit more."

She has received a reply from David Cameron, who said her proposals would be "taken into consideration".


The Grandmother suffered bites to her legs and body as she tried to fight off the dog and rescue her grandson.

She walked free from court. She was given a 4 month sentence suspended for 18 month and banned for keeping dogs for life. The boys uncle was sentenced to 4 months in prison. It seems a short sentence for keeping and breeding a dangerous/banned dog which has taken the life of a young boy.

It is a short sentence but I suspect the real sentence, the one that matters, is knowing how and why his nephew died. It would be hard to live with that.

vicx

mumps wrote: »

It is a short sentence but I suspect the real sentence, the one that matters, is knowing how and why his nephew died. It would be hard to live with that.

Yes true, I would say this would never have happened had he not ignored the law or if the Police followed up the report that he was keeping and breeding an illegal/dangerous breed but any dog can attack.

There is no evidence to prove the dog attacked without warning or if it was provoked (not that it would make it anymore right) but what I am saying is kids should never be left alone where there are dogs even if the dog is a family pet and is 'trusted' as all dogs can turn if they feel afraid or threatened. Only the boys Grandmother knows exactly what happened that night.



It was on the news last week that a man has been charged for allowing his dog (a pit bull-type) to be dangerously out of control after it had bitten the ear of a young girl in the park. His dog has been seized and he has been released on bail until Feb. I bet he doesn't get off as lighly as the boys uncle.

Dollardog

There is a nasty looking man around our way who has a pit bull type dog, has a young wife and baby too. The dog used to be walked dragging a heavy weight, obviously to build its strength up, I heard people telling that it was locked in a shed for weeks on end, 'to teach it a lesson', for what I don't know, but I suspect more to make it 'hard'. He was also apparently seen kicking it.
I, along with others complained to the police. They told me they had had numerous complaints and had had him under investigation for a while. Apparently, the police had tried to have a look at the dog and couldn't get near it. Although whenever it sees my dog, a Boxer, it turns away and won't face him. I always keep my distance though.
He, the man, disappeared for a while, so did the dog as I have never seen the young girl walking it, probably locked up for somwthing if truth be known. He's back on the scene now but the dog no longer drags the weight and wears a muzzle.
I am sure the fella is a drug dealer by the way I have seen him behave, I think the dog was his protection.

He doesn't look the type to care about the dog, especially listening to the way it was being treated. I am a dog lover through and through and would much rather have heard of it being taken away from him. I don't know if the dog is nasty or not or if it could be rehomed with training, but even if it meant it being put down, rather that than living the life it was/is.
No-one knows how animals, or children are treated behind closed doors but if they are treated badly in public, goodness knows what happens to them when no-one is there.

Having previously taken on a badly treated rescue Boxer with problems, I know it can take months/years to help them and emotionally some of the damage remains with them for life.

I don't agree with having to pay £500 though for a license because I think it would be very hard to police and it wouldn't solve anythink as the criminal element wouldn't get one, or if they did, it would be paid for out of the results of their crimes - £500 probably wouldn't be much to a drug dealer, but would be a hell of a lot of money for someone like me.
I can afford to keep my dog, feed him well, have him insured and pay vets bills etc, but certainly couldn't afford a high license fee. It would also stop a lot of other good owners from taking dogs on and end up with even more in rescue having to be put down.

dizziblonde

Person_one wrote: »

More powerful than a mastiff, a great dane, a GSD, an airedale terrier, a husky, a malamute, a st bernard, a staffie, a dobermann, an OES or any number of other big strong dogs that aren't banned?

No, they were banned as a kneejerk sop.

A GSD broke my uncle's arm - ZOMG BAN THEM! It was trained to attack on command as well... must automatically = evil child-eating mutt right?

Put the flaming torches and pitchforks away.

Uncle was a police dog-handler - the dog, was an utterly beautiful, supremely trained creature (and the reason I love GSDs and one day WILL work hubby around to having one)... he'd been doing a display one day, and was playing the role of the baddie, bite sleeve on etc etc etc (you know the drill if you've ever seen these at public shows and stuff) - ran away, dog was commanded to bring him down using the sleeve... idiot tripped over as he fell and landed badly and broke his arm.

Yet the dog obviously still has strength to inflict that level of injuries - therefore shall we ban them too? God no!

Hell I'm sure a handbag dog could inflict serious injuries if you tripped over 'em.