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Is it ok to be rude to...
heretolearn_2
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someone who emails a job application to you 13 times in less than two minutes and they were just wasting your time with their application anyway? A professional role requiring professional qualifications and experience (spelled out in the ad) and a 19 year old applicant who's done a bit of low level admin (filing) as a temp and worked in a shop. No doubt doing it just to keep the jobcentre happy - do you think they'll say they sent out 13 job applications this week?
Tempted to reply to each email saying 'nope, still don't want you'
I won't really - but I am going to ignore them, which is not like us at all as we ALWAYS email back to unsuccessful applicants.
Which raises my real question...
Bearing in mind all the discussions on companies being 'rude' to not respond to unsuccessful people, do you feel that firms would be justified in not responding to applications that are clearly a deliberate time-waste exercise and not genuine applications (such as the above). We always get a few and I not only resent the time wasted reading them,but then the extra time responding.Not talking about people who are chancing it a bit, but the outright 'this is nothing at all to do with the job advertised' people.
Tempted to reply to each email saying 'nope, still don't want you'
I won't really - but I am going to ignore them, which is not like us at all as we ALWAYS email back to unsuccessful applicants.
Which raises my real question...
Bearing in mind all the discussions on companies being 'rude' to not respond to unsuccessful people, do you feel that firms would be justified in not responding to applications that are clearly a deliberate time-waste exercise and not genuine applications (such as the above). We always get a few and I not only resent the time wasted reading them,but then the extra time responding.Not talking about people who are chancing it a bit, but the outright 'this is nothing at all to do with the job advertised' people.
Cash not ash from January 2nd 2011: £2565.:j
OU student: A103 , A215 , A316 all done. Currently A230 all leading to an English Literature degree.
Any advice given is as an individual, not as a representative of my firm.
OU student: A103 , A215 , A316 all done. Currently A230 all leading to an English Literature degree.
Any advice given is as an individual, not as a representative of my firm.
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I've started being quite rude to recruitment agencies that spam me over and over again with the same adverts. It's just a waste of my time, like you say.0
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I think you are wasting your time and company's resources mailing back to unsuccessful applicants, TBH. If someone is interviewed, they deserve feedback. If someone sends in an application, they don't deserve any feedback unless they ring, in which case you ideally could keep a list of those who simply did not meet the person specification, as in the current example, and give a little more feedback to others.
My prediction - over 50% don't meet PS
Another 30% don't follow the instructions for applicants (you could tighten up on these, if you needed to save response time. I saved a lot of energy once by specifying EXACTLY how an administration manager should apply for a job - 80% of the applications were binned immediately!)
You then have a max of 20% of phone calls to spend less than 5 mins giving USEFUL feedback to people who didn't quite make the grade.Ex board guide. Signature now changed (if you know, you know).0 -
Well, I like to respond even to the unlucky ones, usually. Of course many of the applications we get don't make the cut for all sorts of reasons, but at least I can see why they wanted to apply. The ones that get up my nose are the completely off-the-wall pointless ones. It's as if we advertised for a doctor and someone who had 3 GCSEs and been working as a gardener applied.Cash not ash from January 2nd 2011: £2565.:j
OU student: A103 , A215 , A316 all done. Currently A230 all leading to an English Literature degree.
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Ah - mystery as to why we were getting so many peculiar ones this time round solved - I double checked the online jobcentre advert. They'd decided to add some statutory wording nonsense at the start and finish of our ad, and made space for this did this by randomly cutting bits out - totally changing the meaning in some places and it was not at all clear what the job required. *sigh* re-done it now, with their stat bits left in. They'd even cut out the required qualification for goodness sake!:mad:Cash not ash from January 2nd 2011: £2565.:j
OU student: A103 , A215 , A316 all done. Currently A230 all leading to an English Literature degree.
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Ah - mystery as to why we were getting so many peculiar ones this time round solved - I double checked the online jobcentre advert. They'd decided to add some statutory wording nonsense at the start and finish of our ad, and made space for this did this by randomly cutting bits out - totally changing the meaning in some places and it was not at all clear what the job required. *sigh* re-done it now, with their stat bits left in. They'd even cut out the required qualification for goodness sake!:mad:Cash not ash from January 2nd 2011: £2565.:j
OU student: A103 , A215 , A316 all done. Currently A230 all leading to an English Literature degree.
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heretolearn wrote: »someone who emails a job application to you 13 times in less than two minutes .
I wouldn't have thought it was physically possible to send something 13 times in two minutes (but maybe I'm just slow!). I suspect that it is more likely to be a glitch with their e-mail provider, so I'd be inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt on this.
Glad you got the wording of the ad corrected though!
I'm a retired employment solicitor. Hopefully some of my comments might be useful, but they are only my opinion and not intended as legal advice.0 -
Sorry, you posted the same thing twice in 10 minutes - you don't get the job!!heretolearn wrote: »Ah - mystery as to why we were getting so many peculiar ones this time round solved - I double checked the online jobcentre advert. They'd decided to add some statutory wording nonsense at the start and finish of our ad, and made space for this did this by randomly cutting bits out - totally changing the meaning in some places and it was not at all clear what the job required. *sigh* re-done it now, with their stat bits left in. They'd even cut out the required qualification for goodness sake!:mad:
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heretolearn wrote: »Tempted to reply to each email saying 'nope, still don't want you'
I know exactly where you are coming from!0 -
and you wonder why youngsters are demoralised at getting no acknowledgement of their applications?
heaven forbid that you should waste your company time and resources posting on MSE about being rude to applicants?Its not that we have more patience as we grow older, its just that we're too tired to care about all the pointless drama
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Maybe there was a technical glitch with their email and the multiple mailing was a complete accident? Just like your own multiple posting of the same thing twice?DMP Mutual Support Thread member 244
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