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Cooled boiled water for formula

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  • DanE2010
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    http://www.dh.gov.uk/prod_consum_dh/groups/dh_digitalassets/@dh/@en/@ps/@sta/@perf/documents/digitalasset/dh_107685.pdf

    That is the link to the NHS Pregnancy book, exactly the same one I got in 2010, it tells you everyting you need to know about formula feeding, temperature and storing it.

    Even if your midwife doesnt know then everyone should have this book and access to the most up to date info, and if for some reason you dont then I tend to google and get the info from sites like NHS, WHO etc etc

    I have decided to do it my way as I find it much more practical for me, make sure everything is sterile and still ensure the water is hot enough to sterelise the powder and then refrigerate right away and use within 24 hours (12 hours mostly).
  • Xaniwoop
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    onlyroz wrote: »
    I was definitely given an "official" NHS book when I was pregnant with my second child (3 years ago) and it did include a page on bottle feeding - although I can't remember whether it gave the "water must be 70 degrees" advice.

    I got two official books (2 1/2 years ago), a pregnancy version and one called 'birth to five' both contained the bottle feeding guidelines and I just checked birth to five and does say to boil the water before use and to leave it no longer than 30 mins to cool which a pp said would make it approx 70C.

    I'm not sure that people can claim that the advice is not being given to mothers, its up to them whether they read it though.
  • Sammy_Girl
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    Apricot wrote: »
    Water needs to be 70 degrees to kill bugs in formula so best way would be to make entire bottles, cool as quickly as possible, put right at the back of fridge and then warm when needed. Keeping cooled water is no good as it's not at a high enough temperature to kill the nasties.

    You know what, I genuinely didn't know this. It does go to show like a previous poster said that HVs are so het up on BF'ing that correct advice on FF'ing is lacking. Certainly in my area anyway.

    For the first 8 weeks or so I think, I did make up each bottle as and when I needed it. One bottle would be sterilised in the steam steriliser whilst the kettle was boiling. The boiling water added to the bottle, scoops of formula added and then put in a jug of cold water to cool it down. All whilst baby was screaming for food. Even in the middle of the night :o I was doing what the instructions on the box told me to, because I knew no better. It was after then that I discovered ready made formula for night time and making up ready made bottles for the day :)

    Again, as on all the other threads, each to their own and every parent does what is best for their child based on the information that they have to hand. My DD is 10 months now and down to 2 bottles a day, so hopefully those will be gone in the next couple of months. Then it's onto the next parenting dilemma, I'm sure :)
  • DanE2010
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    Xaniwoop wrote: »
    I got two official books (2 1/2 years ago), a pregnancy version and one called 'birth to five' both contained the bottle feeding guidelines and I just checked birth to five and does say to boil the water before use and to leave it no longer than 30 mins to cool which a pp said would make it approx 70C.

    I'm not sure that people can claim that the advice is not being given to mothers, its up to them whether they read it though.

    Ive got the birth to five one also and just checked it too and does contain all the info, im sure its given to every pregnant woman as my sister got one too.
  • GobbledyGook
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    Sammy_Girl wrote: »
    You know what, I genuinely didn't know this. It does go to show like a previous poster said that HVs are so het up on BF'ing that correct advice on FF'ing is lacking. Certainly in my area anyway.

    For the first 8 weeks or so I think, I did make up each bottle as and when I needed it. One bottle would be sterilised in the steam steriliser whilst the kettle was boiling. The boiling water added to the bottle, scoops of formula added and then put in a jug of cold water to cool it down. All whilst baby was screaming for food. Even in the middle of the night :o I was doing what the instructions on the box told me to, because I knew no better. It was after then that I discovered ready made formula for night time and making up ready made bottles for the day :)

    Again, as on all the other threads, each to their own and every parent does what is best for their child based on the information that they have to hand. My DD is 10 months now and down to 2 bottles a day, so hopefully those will be gone in the next couple of months. Then it's onto the next parenting dilemma, I'm sure :)

    What advice would you have been expecting? The advice on the box is the best way the bottles should be made. Do you really think HV's should be giving advice on anything other than the safest way to make bottles?
  • iceicebaby
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    The only books I was given when pg were the green notes and a book about all the screening tests and scans. I wasn't given any Birth to five book or anything that mentioned feeding at all, be it breast or formula.
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  • DanE2010
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    iceicebaby wrote: »
    The only books I was given when pg were the green notes and a book about all the screening tests and scans. I wasn't given any Birth to five book or anything that mentioned feeding at all, be it breast or formula.

    I think every expectant mum is supposed to be given the pregancy book at their first midwife appointment, but its not surprising that some women dont, some midwives just cant be arsed nowadays and its the pregnant women who loose out on the support (just my opinion)

    my midwife was lovely but she didnt half push the breast feeding on me, even gave me a dvd on bf to watch as 'homework' and ask me every appointment thereafter if I had watched it, I didnt by the way, I dnt like being pushed to do something like that, and the pregnancy book had pages and pages on bf so couldn be bothered to watch a dvd of the same thing!

    But if I wasnt sure about something I would google it, I google everything!
  • liney
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    I used to store bottles with boiled water in the fridge, a couple of oz's short of the amount DS would want. When he was due to feed, add the milk power, shake and top up with boiled water for almost instant warm milk.

    Eg - 5oz cold, pre-boiled, in the fridge, add 7 scoops and 2oz boiling water - shake.
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  • [Thinks back to 12 years ago]

    I made them up as I went along. Easy to do - I made myself a cuppa, got the bottle out of the sterilising tank, rinsed with kettle water, added water to appropriate level, got my milk out of the fridge, did my tea/coffee, put the milk back in the fridge and then added the milk powder to the bottle, sealed it, shook it and it was almost ready, sitting on the counter whilst I drank my tea. I then went and woke her up once the bottle was the right temperature.

    She went pretty much 3 and a half to four hourly as soon as I stopped BF, so I knew at 3 hours 20, she was likely to be up soon, so went and put the kettle on, as it was quicker than faffing around with the bottle warmer thing that lived in the cupboard.


    Maybe I was just lucky, but it worked fine for me.
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  • ncsmummy
    ncsmummy Posts: 450 Forumite
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    When mine were little (now 7 and 10!) we used to make them up in advance and put them in the fridge. At the rate they got through bottles they were never there longer than 8 hours but from what my siter who recently had a baby has told me thats not the 'right' thing to do anymore. Mine both slept on their bellys too cos they would just scream for hours on their backs.I am a terrible mummy :embarasse
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