auto start/stop

Gloomendoom

TrickyWicky wrote: »

Read my original post.

My point was that once it gets to an age where it becomes difficult to start, auto stop/start would become more of a hinderance than a help.

Read my post.

You can always turn it off!

neilmcl

TrickyWicky wrote: »

Read my original post.

My point was that once it gets to an age/condition where it becomes difficult to start, auto stop/start would become more of a hinderance than a help.

If you car gets to an age where its difficult to start then it'll be difficult to start regardless. Auto start/stop will make no difference to this! And as the above poster has mentioned, you can always turn it off.

Gloomendoom

TrickyWicky wrote: »

Therefore how many people are going to buy a brand new renault knowing how much it will depreciate?

Quite a few, evidently...

RECORD SALES FOR THE RENAULT GROUP IN 2011

The Renault group sold 2,722,062 vehicles worldwide, an increase of 94,697 (+3.6%)

Source

movilogo

I think this auto start/stop is only fitted in manual cars - not in automatics.

Obukit

Gloomendoom wrote: »

Quite a few, evidently...

All from one very generous gentleman who said, "Don't worry, just send the bill to my asylum".

tillycat123

I have a new Smart car with it on. I turn it off as soon as I get going, I find it pointless and annoying. Fair enough if you are gridlock on a road that is not moving at all then fine, but it cuts in and out when you are coasting, must be doing more harm than good doing that, constantly cutting out then switching the engine back on again.

People look at me thinking I've stalled the car all the time!

Premier_2

tillycat123 wrote: »

I have a new Smart car with it on. I turn it off as soon as I get going, I find it pointless and annoying. Fair enough if you are gridlock on a road that is not moving at all then fine, but it cuts in and out when you are coasting, must be doing more harm than good doing that, constantly cutting out then switching the engine back on again.

People look at me thinking I've stalled the car all the time!

I can't really comment on the Smart car functionality, and I guess their answer would be that you shouldn't be coasting out of gear, but I can assure you that Ford has a system to check the rotational speed of the wheels before cutting the engine.

Surely this is needed if for no other reason than to ensure you maintain operational PAS?

daveyjp

movilogo wrote: »

I think this auto start/stop is only fitted in manual cars - not in automatics.

Merc and BMW fit stop start to autos.

daveyjp

Premier wrote: »

Surely this is needed if for no other reason than to ensure you maintain operational PAS?

PAS on stop start cars is electric, not the old fashioned hydraulic pump system which needed the engine to be running to operate, so even when the engine is stopped the PAS still operates.

Trebor16

TrickyWicky wrote: »

You're missing the point. Supposing the vehicle has a defect which prevents it from actually starting? - automatic or manual it still won't start.

This could happen to a car without the stop/start function

TrickyWicky wrote:

Supposing you've got a headgasket failure and coolant is leaking into the cylinders - petrol won't burn. How does starting manually make any difference to an auto start?

It won't.

Head gasket failure could happen to any car, regardless of having the stop/start function.