Could this be a "FREE" car?

s_b

i suppose if you are a middle class lentil eater with your glasses on a chain and you want to think you are saving the planet and all that baloney then go ahead make my day and get one ,just dont come here complaining when your govt quango job has been pulled from under you though:D
me?
i will keep sticking fossil fuels in the rear of my motor till the people in charge of the world stop me:)

Flyboy152

thenudeone wrote: »

£80 a week in a petrol car works out at about 400 miles a week depending on the car's size, (more in a diesel).

If that's all commuting it would be 5 days of commuting 40 miles each way, or about an hour's drive.

That's pretty much at the limit of the range and probably outside the range in winter when you need lights, wipers, and demisters on.

But if you are driving around the city all day, in the traffic, you can soon use a full tank in a week. Charge overnight, or use the fast charge for thirty minutes.

The website doesn't give 0-60 acceleration figures. I think the car would struggle to replace the comfort and speed of a standard car on a daily commute of that length. It could work very well, however, for someone making more shorter journeys, especially in a city environment, where acceleration and speed are less important, but they would probably not do the mileage you've used.

But they would use the fuel.

0-60 is apparently fifteen seconds.

jase1

If you're spending £80 a week on petrol you're most likely commuting longish distances, for which a car like this isn't ideal.

If you're pottering around town you won't be doing 80 miles a day (well, a few people will but they're in a small minority).

"Saving money" isn't really a goer at this point. Maybe in another decade.

Trebor16

Flyboy152 wrote: »

Although I have not had time to do a full in-depth analysis, I am sure the figures stack up, in principle, in terms of the net saving. Even if the net cost is fifty pounds a month more than it was costing you before, it still makes a reasonable amount of sense.

How can you say the figures "stack up, in principle" when you haven't analysed them properly?

Trebor16

thenudeone wrote: »

£80 a week in a petrol car works out at about 400 miles a week depending on the car's size, (more in a diesel).

£80 a week for a petrol car would work out at 61 litres at £1.31 per litre which would equate to a consumption of 29.8 mpg. There are plenty of petrol cars out there that would easily exceed this figure.

I have just filled up my diesel Golf which cost me £74 but I managed 623 miles on the last tankful.

Flyboy needs to do a proper analysis of the figures methinks.

Trebor16

Flyboy152 wrote: »

But if you are driving around the city all day, in the traffic, you can soon use a full tank in a week. Charge overnight, or use the fast charge for thirty minutes.

I wonder how many people drive their own car around town all day as part of their work?

Notmyrealname

Flyboy152 wrote: »

If this translates across the market, could we see more electric cars on the road in the coming years?

It would take me THREE DAYS to do a 212 mile round trip I do to buy stock.

If you are doing enough mileage to go through £80 a week of petrol/diesel then electric cars are currently far from suitable for you. Once they have a 300-400 mile range on a charge then its a different story.

Trebor16

And don't forget the cost of replacing the batteries every five years, which at the moment is several thousand pounds.

Hintza

Trebor16 wrote: »

And don't forget the cost of replacing the batteries every five years, which at the moment is several thousand pounds.

But this is a lease all maintenance covered. Goes back before the batteries are kaput.

One other thing a government payment of 25% to a maximum of £5k basically puts a floo price on these cars of £20k whilst that handout continues. So prices aren't going to come down fast.

I believe also that they have only sold a TOTAL of 900 cars nder this scheme.

Trebor16

A C1 on a four year lease would be £139 a month, a saving of £221 against the cost of leasing the electric Citroen. If you do 100 miles a week then the electric car is going to cost £1.50 to power up for that mileage. The C1 would probably use about 2 gallons of petrol at a cost of £11.90 for the same mileage (50mpg). Over a year that will mean a fuel cost for the C1 of £620 compared to the electric car costs of £78, or a difference of £542. The lease for the C1 will cost £1668 per year against £4320 for the electric car, a difference of £2652.

Taking away the saving in fuel from the cost of the lease you get a difference in favour of the C1 of £2110 over the course of a year.

The figures for 200 miles are week (10400 per annum) are as follows:-

Fuel C1 = £1240 Electric car = £156 difference = £1084

The difference now comes down to £1568, still in favour of the C1