what does gross misconduct mean?

Lotus-eater

It means you've co**ed up really badly in some way, according to your employers.

It can be really really serious, or to the rest of us, not that bad. It depends in which industry you work in and what your job is.

Often it can be money orientated.

I was accused of GM when I inadvertently claimed for 15mins of a days money I wasn't entitled to once, almost sacked too. But most are much worse.

victory

Is fibbing on your CV gross misconduct? Expanding the truth they called on the show the other day:rotfl::rotfl:

FOX_HOUND

mummyoftwomonkeys wrote: »

hi can someone please tell me in layman's terms what gross misconduct actually means, so what you would have to have done to get the sack for it. Thank you

Many posters have given definitions as to what constitutes gross misconduct. Bear in mind though that just because an employer finds you guilty in all likelihood, thats just what it is, likelihood. It does not mean that you actually committed the wrongdoing.

An employer does not need absolute truth to give you the sack.

Nicki

Jojo_the_Tightfisted wrote: »

In practice, it means you have five minutes to leave the premises and your P45 will be posted to you in due course.

Not necessarily. You can be suspended on suspicion of gross misconduct, investigated and still have a range of sanctions applied depending on the outcome of the investigation and any mitigating facts the employer takes into account.

Lotus-eater

victory wrote: »

Is fibbing on your CV gross misconduct? Expanding the truth they called on the show the other day:rotfl::rotfl:

I don't think so, but it depends what you've lied about I suppose.

I've never lied on a CV and still remember one employer reading mine and saying "well that's all quite impressive......... if it's true".

To tell you the truth, I was outraged and the shock and momentary anger must have shown on my face, then I relaxed and said "well of course", I knew they could check it anyway
10 seconds later they offered me the job

(I didn't take it, which was nothing to do with the interview.)

kittykarate

victory wrote: »

Is fibbing on your CV gross misconduct? Expanding the truth they called on the show the other day:rotfl::rotfl:

If you've lied about a medical qualification it is :eek:

Seanymph

It depends on the company and your contract what it is.

But basically it's what they would put in as 'firable without any process'.

bouncing_bubbles

Seanymph - if they dont follow process there Maybe an ET case, due to lack of process. If the employer decides to dismiss without a proper investigation and dont take mitigation offerd into account then there is a possibility of an ET case. However if actions are so severe that dismissal is likly even if an investigation had been carried out properly then the ET case may fall on its face, same applies for mitigation.

Jojo_the_Tightfisted

Nicki wrote: »

Not necessarily. You can be suspended on suspicion of gross misconduct, investigated and still have a range of sanctions applied depending on the outcome of the investigation and any mitigating facts the employer takes into account.

Well, yes, if you haven't actually done it or they agree it doesn't fulfill the requirements for gross misconduct you might.

But in the real world, it's usually get your coat and get out. Even in a suspension, you don't tend to be left to hang around for the rest of the day drinking coffee and chatting with your colleagues.

bouncing_bubbles

Suspension is without implication of guilt! Its can be:
1) to allow a full and through investigation to be carried out
2) because allegations are serious and could result in a risk to company (more money being lost, drugs being stolen etc)
3) if accused of bullying and harrassment to enusre bullying of accuser isnt intensified.

I quite often see people return to work following suspension & disiplinary. Maybe with a warning of some sort and objectives and targets.