Nice people thread part 5 - nicely does it

StevieJ

Oh dear.

The promise

Security

Google Wallet is designed and engineered to enable safe, secure payments. In fact, Google Wallet’s security features go beyond what’s possible with traditional wallets and cards.


A locked wallet is a safer wallet

Google Wallet requires you to set up a Google Wallet PIN that must be entered before making a purchase. This PIN prevents unauthorized access and payments via Google Wallet. Android phones also feature a separate lock screen.

Secure technology

Google Wallet and MasterCard PayPass™ provide many layers of security.
Google Wallet stores your encrypted payment card credentials on a computer chip on your phone called the Secure Element. Think of the Secure Element as a separate computer, capable of running programs and storing data. The Secure Element is separate from your Android phone's memory. The chip is designed to only allow trusted programs on the Secure Element itself to access the payment credentials stored therein.
The secure encryption technology of MasterCard PayPass protects your payment card credentials as they are transferred from the phone to the contactless reader.

The reality

Turns out it's not necessary to decrypt the PIN, or even hack into Google's Wallet, just ask the phone nicely and it will let anyone root though its innards.
The flaw was spotted by The Smartphone Champ, and unlike yesterday's efforts which required root access and a modicum of brute force, this hack barely qualifies for the term, as it just involves asking the phone to reset the application data. That wipes the stored PIN, but not the card details, so a new PIN is entered and transactions immediately become possible:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/02/10/google_wallet_again/

zagubov

Oh dear indeed!
This brings me nicely to my enquiry; has anyone here been researching mobile phones that can access emails? Any tips?

Not looking for anything top-flight, strictly MSE you know!

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Hi, can I join

Can't take much more of the sockies on every other thread!!

Welcome to the safe harbour and calm waters of the NP thread!

chewmylegoff

zagubov wrote: »

Oh dear indeed!
This brings me nicely to my enquiry; has anyone here been researching mobile phones that can access emails? Any tips?

Not looking for anything top-flight, strictly MSE you know!

obviously blackberry is the market leader for "mobile email". it is about 1,000,000 times better than trying to send emails from an iphone.

depends what you want to do though. if you are going to use it a lot, and want to review and edit attachments, then blackberry is best. if you just want to read and send the odd email here and there then pretty much any old android phone will be fine.

can't offer much help at the MSE end, but would have thought you could get a second hand blackberry for close to nothing.

lostinrates

Dh hates work blackberry..its annoyingly efficient!


I love the many peacocks.


Its not often you see a misstype in a viva post, so made me feel a teeny bit better

The doctor told me at age 23 or 24 when i got ill and before we new ehat was wrong.....none of us are getting any younger. Calm and lovely dh almost blew his top.


I have spoilt cats their granny came to see us, first time in months because she has not been in uk, and brough a huge back of treats and gave them all to them. The cats now have cat treat rush.....

Meanwhile the dogs were so excited to see her they ran around and round like loons and are saying they are too tired to do birds tonight!

Wheezy_2

sss555s wrote: »

How many Peacocks are there in lir's avatar?

One!

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Hi, can I join

Can't take much more of the sockies on every other thread!!

Hey Graham, good to see you.
Make yourself comfy, Lydia will be along soon with tea and crumpets.

sss555s

Wheezy wrote: »

One!

Correct! You are safe to go back to work :j


Welcome back Graham :beer:

silvercar

zagubov wrote: »

Oh dear indeed!
This brings me nicely to my enquiry; has anyone here been researching mobile phones that can access emails? Any tips?

Not looking for anything top-flight, strictly MSE you know!

First question is if you have fat fingers?

Any phone that does email needs a qwerty keyboard, which means more buttons in the same sort of space.

Then you need to choose between touch screen and not, the latter being cheaper.

I love my blackberry, its a (now boring) curve 8520, I'm sure you can get a cheap tariff with free phone for about £15 a month.

Percy1983

I got my HTC wildfire at £6.80 a month and unlimited internet, email works fine if you are ok typing on a touch screen, as mentioned the blackberrys and some others do have a small keyboard.

chewmylegoff

lostinrates wrote: »

Dh hates work blackberry..its annoyingly efficient!

work blackberries just make you "on-call" the whole time, even when you're on holiday and are drunk, and are hateful things as a result.

i tried not to have one, and managed for ages to resist, but then one day my secretary just dumped one on my desk. thanks a million.

vivatifosi

I also have a cheap as chips Wildfire and it works fine. Not great for e-mail attachments, though partly because I use hotspots, but good for e-mail link up. I got mine for £15 per month plus 750 mins, unlimited texts and a small amount of data that I don't use because I use hotspots, but Percy's sounds a great deal. Be warned though, it has a great screen for Angry Birds and you will get addicted.

Speaking of birds and addictions, I counted 376 in lir's avatar.

ETA: welcome Graham! I have no idea who is a sockie and who isn't though.