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scaffolding pole - neighbours away & we'd like to place a pole on their land

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  • Grimbal
    Grimbal Posts: 2,334 Forumite
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    edited 13 January 2012 at 4:26PM
    Ah, good point about the airspace - I'll email them with an update to say that we're trying to cantilever it to avoid their grass. It'll let them know that we were in their space in their absence & looked at alternatives to a traditional structure. Hopefully, they'll see that we're trying to do the right (or just "less wrong") thing by them

    I suspect that all this will be photographed & reported back to them upon their return. The old guy opposite called up Buildings Ctl when we had a chimney removed ! Still not entirely sure why he took it upon himself to do this ;)
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  • DVardysShadow
    DVardysShadow Posts: 18,949 Forumite
    Photograph it yourself and pop a print through with a note. And give a copy to the busybody saying you have already put one through the neighbours' door. :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
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  • Grimbal
    Grimbal Posts: 2,334 Forumite
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    edited 13 January 2012 at 4:34PM
    I like that idea quite a lot you know! This is why MSE is great: populated by people providing helpful & constructive advice, with just a touch of evil genius..........

    :T:T
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  • melb
    melb Posts: 2,887 Forumite
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    do the neighbours know you are building an extension?
  • AdmiralX
    AdmiralX Posts: 330 Forumite
    You would get the best advice by a solicitor! If I were you I would go to CAB, it is free. Because if you "do do" something you need peace in mind and must be sure you will not have further problems you never know.

    The thing is also that if you "do do" something it may have consequences unforeseen by you, placing something in somebody's land can lead to claims that this or the other thing were caused...
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  • Grimbal
    Grimbal Posts: 2,334 Forumite
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    melb wrote: »
    do the neighbours know you are building an extension?

    Oh yes, most emphatically
    AdmiralX wrote: »
    You would get the best advice by a solicitor! If I were you I would go to CAB, it is free. Because if you "do do" something you need peace in mind and must be sure you will not have further problems you never know.

    The thing is also that if you "do do" something it may have consequences unforeseen by you, placing something in somebody's land can lead to claims that this or the other thing were caused...

    Hmm, this is what I'm worrying about. I'm trying to work out if replacing a flat roof with a pitched one (& slightly extending it to the front) would come under the "repair/improvement to existing structure" heading - in which case we would have a right of access. The roof itself was always there, but we're changing it for a pitched one that extends forward from the original by about a metre.
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  • krlyr
    krlyr Posts: 5,993 Forumite
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    If your neighbours are of the interfering sort, would any of them have a contact number for the holidaying neighbours? They may not wish to give it out to you but could contact the neighbours to let them know you wish to speak to them/have sent them an email.
  • Grimbal
    Grimbal Posts: 2,334 Forumite
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    excellent idea, many thanks!
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  • AdmiralX
    AdmiralX Posts: 330 Forumite
    Grimbal wrote: »
    Hmm, this is what I'm worrying about. I'm trying to work out if replacing a flat roof with a pitched one (& slightly extending it to the front) would come under the "repair/improvement to existing structure" heading - in which case we would have a right of access. The roof itself was always there, but we're changing it for a pitched one that extends forward from the original by about a metre.

    It costs nothing to speak to the Planning Department of your Council about these concerns. Is the roof change on the front of the building?
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  • Try looking at it another way. Imagine that your neighbours were home, and they said no when you asked them about the scaffolding pole on their land. What would you do? Fight them through the courts for access or come up with another way round it.

    If I'm picturing this right, you are replacing a flat roof on an extension (garage) with a sloping roof (presumably sloping towards the neighbour's land, ending very close to the boundary).

    The roof and tiling itself you can do from the top. Is it that you want access from the side to put on fascia and guttering? If so, can you do that before putting on the roof, from your own side (working between the roof trusses)?

    If its an absolute necessity to have scaffold access to the roof area, how about support towers front and back on your land, and scaffold beams spanning longways (front to back) over the roof? Ladder beams can definitely span up to 6.1m for access and limited material loads (and I've seen some up to 8m long). If your span is going to be longer than this, how about a temporary tower halfway, through the roof trusses; you can make good the hole that that would leave in the final roof at the end of the work, from the top.
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