Help needed asap I've been Dismissed =(

MissB786

Hey,

I was working for a bank for 7months n i was dismissed under gross misconduct for something i didnt do currently im trying to appeal against the decision.

basically my ex partner and I had a joint account with the same bank I had worked for, i never used this account never had access to it. we split up over a year now, and I moved back to my home address different to the 1 on the joint account. its been a year since i had this account and because i never used it i forgot i even had it!!

so basically my ex partner moved abroad and was money laundering on this account which we had I no idea about i only came to know when i was suspended.

although the bank new i had no part in the money laundering and i told them the truth about what i new about this account but because i had joint responsibility and i failed to change my address or report suspicions i was dismissed!! (i never thought that it would be used for money laundering, i assumed that someone might have stole money although i didnt no what was coming in and out of the account)

now im worried that i wont be able to find another job in a bank ive worked in banks before and because of my exs dirty tricks im suffering

so my question is when im applying for other roles in banks or any financial firms can i put that i worked for this bank but not use it as a reference?

and also when the company does employment checks (not reference checks) what information will they ask for just the dates or will the bank i worked for tell future employees that i worked here but was dismissed or just confirm the dates that i worked there?

pleaseeee help me im sooo stressed out

KiKi

MissB786 wrote: »

so my question is when im applying for other roles in banks or any financial firms can i put that i worked for this bank but not use it as a reference?

You can, by putting two referees at the bottom of your CV. But prospective employers may be suspicious as to why, and ask you for a reference from there anyway. If you refuse they will want to know why. In addition, many application forms will ask for a reference for the last two or three roles; the absence of any information will prompt a question or may screen you out of recruitment altogether.

and also when the company does employment checks (not reference checks) what information will they ask for just the dates or will the bank i worked for tell future employees that i worked here but was dismissed or just confirm the dates that i worked there?

That depends entirely on the company recruiting, and your previous employer. The latter may, or may not, say why you left, dependent upon what their policy is and what they're asked, and what's checked.

Any prospective employer may or may not request the information.

Regardless, I don't advise you to lie. The best advice I would give is to a) find out your old company's policy on references (ie, just name, dates of employment, role and salary?) and b) given that the bank accept you were not part of the money laundering, ask them to agree a neutral reference, or that they won't say anything about the dismissal, and agree to say you resigned.

That's your best outcome.

KiKi

Emmzi

However financial services companies have a greater duty of care with references than other kinds of organisations and full disclosure is very likely.

I would think about other lines of work not involving any money at all.

Evilm

Unfortunately I do agree that a joint account does mean you are partially responsible. You should have taken your name off the account/never had it on their in the first place.

Has your EX-partner been arrested? Have you been questioned by the police etc? If you have certainly don't lie about this if it comes up on any applications!

Speak to them and ask them their reference policy. Or get a good friend to request a reference for you (easier if you know someone who runs a business) and see what it says.

Most places will insist on contacting your last employer for a reference.

jobbingmusician

I'm sorry, but I think you are unlikely to win any appeal. Although I am very happy to believe you are innocent, if I were your (bank) employer I would expect you to know about your bank accounts, and to monitor them. Bank employees do indeed have a greater responsibility than the rest of us for financial management, which is why they can fail to be appointed if they have a CCJ against them, for example. Any employment tribunal would be likely to see your dismissal as the action of a reasonable employer, IMHO.

I agree that you should change your area of employment - this account will not just disappear, and you'll always have it hanging over you if you work in any area of financial services. The rather better news is that you do have a good explanation for why your career has changed, so that even if an employer knows you have been dismissed, they may be understanding about the fact that you have been deceived by your ex partner.

agrinnall

I'm afraid I have to agree with the other posters that it's unlikely you will ever be able to work in financial services again, no reputable organisation is going to employ someone with a gross misconduct dismissal on their record, particularly these days when there are dozens (if not hundreds) of suitably qualified people applying for every vacancy. You need to review your own qualifications and skills to decide what other line of work would suit you. Good luck, I hope you manage to find a new career that will allow you to get on with your life.

dandelionclock30

no reputable organisation is going to employ someone with a gross misconduct dismissal on their record.

Bull carp- I know people with gross misconduct dismissals who work for the NHS and various charities in well paid jobs.MY last manager had a very serious dismissal against her in her last but 1 job and she now earns £45,000 per year.

It will depend on the employer,how you explain it etc qnd what it says in your reference and other previous references.

Keeping_Positive

dandelionclock30 wrote: »

no reputable organisation is going to employ someone with a gross misconduct dismissal on their record.

Bull carp- I know people with gross misconduct dismissals who work for the NHS and various charities in well paid jobs.MY last manager had a very serious dismissal against her in her last but 1 job and she now earns £45,000 per year.

It will depend on the employer,how you explain it etc qnd what it says in your reference and other previous references.

Thats good news for the OP but I agree with agrinall that it will be very difficult to work for a bank again. I had problems with my last job and was able to negotiate a neutral reference. My new job asked specifically for the last employers reference despite me being able to provide others from previous roles so if I had not have got a reasonable reference then I dont think I would have got this job which is another financial organisation.

I say reasonable it should just confirm dates. Hopefully OP may be able to get this.

dandelionclock30

A guy I know worked for Lloyds as a senior area manager in loans and had been there for 20 odd years.They were desperate to get rid of him as he was very outspoken and earned a big wage with a company car etc.
As soon as he made a tiny error, he was jumped on and told to resign or elce he would be sacked.He got a neutral reference that just confirmed dates and said nothing about a disciplinary proceedings etc. He now works not in a bank but in another finance job and was paid £10,000 severance money.
She needs to ask them to provide a neutral reference.

SarEl

I am afraid that what would concern me, albeit the Op may not have been involved, is the connection with money laundering, which is a reportable offence - so the reference may not even be the biggest problem. A report to the FSA may be. So I think the OP needs to clarify whether such a report has been made, and what may be on that report.

cgk1

dandelionclock30 wrote: »

As soon as he made a tiny error, he was jumped on and told to resign or elce he would be sacked.He got a neutral reference that just confirmed dates and said nothing about a disciplinary proceedings etc. He now works not in a bank but in another finance job and was paid £10,000 severance money.
She needs to ask them to provide a neutral reference.

But in this case she was actually sacked - why is the employer going to provide a neutral reference?