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BobQ

zzzLazyDaisy wrote: »

All forms of closed shops in the UK are strictly illegal under section 137(1)(a) of the Trade Union and Labour Relations (Consolidation) Act 1992

Unless you are a lawyer or all doctor!

BobQ

publicsectorworker wrote: »

because the grevance process says all documents that are to do with the grevance can be seen to make sure its fair. its the employers rules not the unions so all the others still work for the same employer even if they are not in the union or a different one. all the union are doing is making sure its done fairly. if management had done it fairly to start with the union wopuldnt be able to see any scores because there wouldnt be a grevance.

While I am inclined to be supportive of the role of TUs in a workplace I do wonder what sort of organisation is so convinced that its managers are unable to operate a fair and impartial job application process that they need to have such a procedure to check up on them. Equally I cannot see what the public sector is trying to recruit more staff if it has people in its employment who are willing to do the job and considered capable of doing so. Recruitment is quite internal applicants already especially if they are now deemed capable of doing the job..

I suspect its because its managers are trying to emulate what it thinks happens in the private sector where fairness only applies if there is a chance you will be sued.

publicsectorworker

BobQ wrote: »

While I am inclined to be supportive of the role of TUs in a workplace I do wonder what sort of organisation is so convinced that its managers are unable to operate a fair and impartial job application process that they need to have such a procedure to check up on them. Equally I cannot see what the public sector is trying to recruit more staff if it has people in its employment who are willing to do the job and considered capable of doing so. Recruitment is quite internal applicants already especially if they are now deemed capable of doing the job..

I suspect its because its managers are trying to emulate what it thinks happens in the private sector where fairness only applies if there is a chance you will be sued.

There isnt a procedure to check up on management but there is a grevanace procedure which can cover lots of things. i used this procedure because i wasnt happy with the fairness of them selecting. if i hadnt do anything no one would of checked management. the jobs were vacancys held back until decisions had been made on what was going to private sector. when they knew this they could advertise for the jobs which they did and all got took internally.