Strange strange organisation

scheming_gypsy

Sambucus_Nigra wrote: »

Presumably they were hoping to cop a feel as they did so...if anyone pulled my top up/down/around I'd be fuming. You aren't a girl so you perhaps may not understand the issue.

no i'm not, but you usually adjust it by the shoulders so it's lifted evenly. You don't grab the neckline and rip it up.

patman99

Its pointless posting advice. Dilema10 is one of many on here who have absolutley no intention of acting on the advice given.

Errata

I guess for as long as she stays in the job it's usefully preventing some other poor sod from having to work with a bunch of weirdos.

Mischa8

Just had to post a reply based on one line I saw - sleeping over at the bosses' house.

I'd never do this and never have done. However, once, earlier this year, in a new job (I'd been asked to do this before) my colleague (we're both legal secretaries/PAs) who's been in the job 18 years as opposed to my 20 months, asked me to stay over as we'd both been out, had a bit to drink.

Normally I'd say no, and go home. Next day I had to borrow her clothes (white leggings and a tight tunic top) which were certainly not what I'd usually wear.

Bear in mind, I'd known this lady about a year (worked there a year) when I was asked to stay over.

Anyway, I believe our relationship had been heading in a more conspirational and over-friendly manner to the usual office friendliness etc. and afterwards there was some trouble (she knows someone else who used to work for the company and temps for us), they gossiped etc.

I just believe partly by my being over familiar with her, staying over etc that it was too much. and I wouldn't do it again nor would I accept/ask to do so with anyone else.

Mischa8

EllaBeagle wrote: »

For what reason would you need to stay over at bosses houses that along with everything else seems really really sinister. I have never ever heard of that before unless the boss is a very good friend?

Even then, just no, don't ever do it. Maybe if you've had your purse nicked or something you may consider it but then someone (boss etc) can lend you money to get home.

What are taxis for? To get one to one's own house rather than a boss or colleague's home to stay over.

I just believe boss/colleague can think employee/coworker is being over familiar etc or can read more into a relationship which should be, generally, professional. That involves not sleeping at someone else's house, seeing them in dressing gown etc!

Savvy_Sue

scheming_gypsy wrote: »

pulling somebody's top up isn't lifting it over their head, just 'pulling' it up so it covers their chest which doesn't involve unlawful force.
If anybody thinks it's assault then society has failed us.

I work in an all female environment. If a colleague's skirt has ridden up, or her top has slipped further south than usual, I'll say something, just like I will if the label is sticking up on their blouse revealing their size to the world. I may add 'would you like me to tuck that in for you?' in the case of the label, 'cos that can be awkward, but I wouldn't dream of tugging at their skirt or touching their top.

And this is in a fairly touchy feely environment, when we do occasionally hug each other - engagements, bereavements, general excitement ...

In the past I've known a manager have to suggest to a receptionist that it's inappropriate to wear clothing which shows your belly piercing - or, indeed, your belly. No touching is required.

We did once have the most appalling team building day, btw: I'd been on compassionate leave beforehand and although I'd asked if there was anything I needed to know I hadn't been given any warning. I was more than a little 'phased' to find that we were expected to sit on the floor for the first 'exercise': when I said that I wasn't comfortable on the floor I was told I could sit on a chair. So there's me on a chair and everyone else on the floor - feeling comfortable, NOT!

Then we were expected to choose a random object and write how it made us feel or some such garbage. I don't 'get' that kind of thing at the best of times, but I did my best.

I flipped when, having done this, we were then told to share what we'd written with the room. I left the room. I wish I'd left the building, but I shall gloss over the rest of the day. At least after that I knew to only write what I felt comfortable sharing.

My feedback notes probably didn't make pretty reading, but at least nothing like it has been repeated ... Of course, some of my colleagues absolutely LOVED it, but I don't know that any of them were ever able to explain how it helped us review where the organisation was, or where it was going ...