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Sounds like Q1 2010 it is then. :rotfl:
Another bull comes around to my way of thinking.
Without realising it.
You like to think so but not quite.Offer made/accepted december 2009.
Shows up in stats february 2010.
Gosh. Sounds like my "lag theory" is spot on, doesn't it.
Poor non-bulls. Can't even get meaningless fall back positions right.
Nobody has ever disputed that it takes 6-8 weeks from offer to completion. The completion month however shows the completion data that month.
Hence why it takes LR a few months lag before the release the sold properties for the corresponding month.
That does not mean as you would like that your offer in Dec, completed in Feb and will not show will June in the stats. (I'm sure you've factored in 6 month previously)
history will show you bought the property in feb and you purchase price will be incorporated in February's figures.:wall:
What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
Some men you just can't reach.
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IveSeenTheLight wrote: »You like to think so but not quite.
Actually I know so.IveSeenTheLight wrote: »Nobody has ever disputed that it takes 6-8 weeks from offer to completion.
The completion month however shows the completion data that month.
Hence why it takes LR a few months lag before the release the sold properties for the corresponding month.
That does not mean as you would like that your offer in Dec, completed in Feb and will not show will June in the stats. (I'm sure you've factored in 6 month previously
history will show you bought the property in feb and you purchase price will be incorporated in February's figures.
Lite. I think you know your trying to blow a smoke screen here.
So l will repeat myself.
Offer was accepted in December.
Completion was in February.
There is of course a lag between December and February.
So, as stated, my lag theory is spot on.
Lag is, as always was, the difference between offer, where the price is set, and completion where this is formally recorded by the statistics.
An issue which doesn't matter either way, because I've repetatively pointed out that the Q1 2010 figures are more representative of the average prices when I bought.
Shame the average prices are pretty meaningless, but funny nonetheless:rotfl:0 -
Actually I know so.
No, you think you know so.
But only in geneers worldSo l will repeat myself.
Offer was accepted in December.
Completion was in February.
Yes, we deduced that from your fairytale of having bought in Dec 09
this is now your standpoint once you had been outed.There is of course a lag between December and February.
So, as stated, my lag theory is spot on.
Lag is, as always was, the difference between offer, where the price is set, and completion where this is formally recorded by the statistics.
It's becoming clear and transparent now, your way of thinking.
I dont think anyone has disputed it takes generally 6-8 weeks yo complete.
I'm glad however you agree now that the the month od sale is reflected in that months statistics and not any further lag.
You are agreeing this is 6-8 weeks and not 6 months as you've previously claimed.
How does the tune go again?: -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rs3X90RLW3AI'm a story teller, and my stories must be told...
I have many stories, tales for both the young an old...
I have many voices to describe many places, many names have I, and many faces...
In Russia I am Ivan, in Sweden I am Jon...
In Germany I'm Johan, in America I'm John...
On websites I'm geneer.:wall:
What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
Some men you just can't reach.
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IveSeenTheLight wrote: »No, you think you know so.
But only in geneers world
I appear to have a better grasp of the real world than yourself light.
I note we've gone from "geneer hasn't bought" to haggling about semantics.
Brilliantly funny.IveSeenTheLight wrote: »
Yes, we deduced that from your fairytale of having bought in Dec 09
this is now your standpoint once you had been outed.
It's becoming clear and transparent now, your way of thinking.
I dont think anyone has disputed it takes generally 6-8 weeks yo complete.
Sorry, its "a fairytale" yet you appear tp have no problem with the time between offer/acceptance and completion. Bzzzzz. Does not compute.
That is strange. That would rather suggest that offer/acceptance
was in december 2009, as I stated from the start.
And you appear to agree that the Q1 2010 figures are more relevant in Rinoas Timing Game, as I stated from the start.:rotfl:
Hence Geneers "lag theory" appears quite a bit more accurate than you foolishly suggested.
Outed you say? Yeah, of course. Me happily showing the Denialists the date of my first mortgage payment forcing them into a humiliating climb down. That was me being outed.IveSeenTheLight wrote: »
I'm glad however you agree now that the the month od sale is reflected in that months statistics and not any further lag.
You are agreeing this is 6-8 weeks and not 6 months as you've previously claimed.
How does the tune go again?: -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rs3X90RLW3A
I'm sorry Lite, you appear to be trying to create a different argument, to divert attention from the rather sound spanking you've received on topic.
But then thats par for the course with you, isn't it.
Isn't this the point where you start telling everyone I'm on ignore. :rotfl:0 -
I appear to have a better grasp of the real world than yourself light.
I note we've gone from "geneer hasn't bought" to haggling about semantics.
Brilliantly funny.
It is rather funny.
I never claimed you didn't buy, I claimed you were a storyteller either that in you didn;t buy and this was a story else you did buy and the last (almost) 2 years have been a story.
Either way, your a storyteller.
No you claimed to have bought in Dec, yet you only offered at that time.I
Sorry, its "a fairytale" yet you appear tp have no problem with the time between offer/acceptance and completion. Bzzzzz. Does not compute.
That is strange. That would rather suggest that offer/acceptance
was in december 2009, as I stated from the start.
You bought in Feb, once the transaction was completed.
Do we really need to search for your posts of "buying" in Dec 09 and your avatars to reflect?
Simple conclusion is you haven't reached your two year anniversary yet.And you appear to agree that the Q1 2010 figures are more relevant in Rinoas Timing Game, as I stated from the start.:rotfl:
I'm not really interested in your debate with Rinoa.
But I would agree that your property does fall under the Q1 statisticsHence Geneers "lag theory" appears quite a bit more accurate than you foolishly suggested.
Your "lag theory" changes depending on the sets of statistics
Outed you say? Yeah, of course. Me happily showing the Denialists the date of my first mortgage payment forcing them into a humiliating climb down. That was me being outed.
If you stated the truth instead of trying to twist into better facts for your position then there would be no bf "geneer" debate.
Nevermind, you'll be pushing you big red reset button soon no doubt :wall:
What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
Some men you just can't reach.
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IveSeenTheLight wrote: »It is rather funny.
I never claimed you didn't buy, I claimed you were a storyteller either that in you didn;t buy and this was a story else you did buy and the last (almost) 2 years have been a story.
Either way, your a storyteller.
No you claimed to have bought in Dec, yet you only offered at that time.
You bought in Feb, once the transaction was completed.
Do we really need to search for your posts of "buying" in Dec 09 and your avatars to reflect?
Simple conclusion is you haven't reached your two year anniversary yet.
I'm not really interested in your debate with Rinoa.
But I would agree that your property does fall under the Q1 statistics
Your "lag theory" changes depending on the sets of statistics
If you stated the truth instead of trying to twist into better facts for your position then there would be no bf "geneer" debate.
Nevermind, you'll be pushing you big red reset button soon no doubt
:rotfl:So to summarise Lites position.
1) When you called me a storyteller, you actually meant that I was telling a true story. So thats all right and is in no way an an embarassing climb down.
2) Offer and acceptance doesn't (in lites opinion) count as buying. This is highly critical to the ongoing discussion, although not in any way lite can communicate. Which is in no way an embarassing climb down.
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1) When you called me a storyteller, you actually meant that I was telling a true story. So thats all right and is in no way an an embarassing climb down.
No
You have been telling a near two year storyline which wasn't true.2) Offer and acceptance doesn't (in lites opinion) count as buying. This is highly critical to the ongoing discussion, although not in any way lite can communicate. Which is in no way an embarassing climb down.
Good to know.
An offer and acceptance in legal terms doe snot conclude the bargain.
Only when the transaction has taken place is the exchange completed and the product could be considered as bought.
Given that you cannot accept the reasoning so abbundantly hown to you, how about referring to the dictionary
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/bought?q=boughtpast simple and past participle of buy
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/buy_1?q=buyto get something by paying money for it
Quite clearly your belief that making a verbal offer and reciporacal acceptance constitutes having bought the property, however quite clearly the transaction has not been completed because you hadn;t paid for it.
Alternatively as I have pointed out to you before, refer to your mortgage documents and they shall show you when you bought.:wall:
What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
Some men you just can't reach.
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IveSeenTheLight wrote: »No
You have been telling a near two year storyline which wasn't true.
Right you are light. Your running with the "I mean't you either bought or you didn't" fall back position. Presumably you consider Inanity less embarassing. :rotfl:
Yet initial comments like this...IveSeenTheLight wrote: »hmmm, wre you about to say you bought two weeks ago before you remembered you said years
w and y are nowhere near each other on a keyboard for it to be a simple spelling mistake
...basically show you up as a liar.IveSeenTheLight wrote: »No
An offer and acceptance in legal terms doe snot conclude the bargain.
Only when the transaction has taken place is the exchange completed and the product could be considered as bought.
Given that you cannot accept the reasoning so abbundantly hown to you, how about referring to the dictionary
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/bought?q=bought
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/buy_1?q=buy
Quite clearly your belief that making a verbal offer and reciporacal acceptance constitutes having bought the property, however quite clearly the transaction has not been completed because you hadn;t paid for it.
Alternatively as I have pointed out to you before, refer to your mortgage documents and they shall show you when you bought.
OMG! He's still at it.
First I believe I will destroy your pedantic efforts in a humiliating fashion, prior to highlighting the Inanity of your pedantic efforts.1) Buying a House In Scotland:
Concluding Missives and the Conveyancing.
If your offer is successful, your solicitor and the seller's solicitor will then negotiate the "missives" which are the formal letters passing between them dealing with the finer points of the contract which will finally be concluded... Once "missives have been concluded" (roughly equivalent to the "exchange of contracts" in England) you are contractually bound to buy the property at the agreed date of entry and the seller is bound to sell. The date of entry may be some weeks, or even months ahead, and it is at that point that the full purchase price is payable.
2)now thats resolved, heres the most important question.
What does it matter? Who bleedin' cares?:rotfl:
I said at the start that the Q1 figures were relevant, and thats about that really.
Like I said, you appear to find Inanity less embarassing.
You've regularly demonstrated a reliance on meaningless pedantry even when losing the most inconsequential of arguments
Light by name, light buy nature.
I'd encourage you to reconsider.0 -
Right you are light. Your running with the "I mean't you either bought or you didn't" fall back position. Presumably you consider Inanity less embarassing. :rotfl:
Yet initial comments like this...
...basically show you up as a liar.
It was a simple question with a little smiley given your spelling mistake.
Sorry you didn;t get the humour in the post.
A couple of points and then the most important question.
1) Offer/Acceptance/Completion are all part of the buying process. It is ridiculous to suggest otherwise.
2) Offer/Acceptance is when the price is agreed.
3) In the context of "when did you buy" the decision was when the price was agreed.
4) Therefore, to all intents and purposes, I bought in december.
5) The process was finalised in February.
And now the important question.
What does it matter? Who bleedin' cares.:rotfl:
For your five points, I simply refer you once again to your mortgage papers, it will clearly define when you bought.
As for your important question, your right, it doesn;t matter, nobody really cares.
It's just fun seeing you wind yourself in knots not willing to admit your mistake and that you boulght in Feb and not Dec:wall:
What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
Some men you just can't reach.
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