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Osborne loses his nerve in the face of Union solidarity

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  • discoass
    discoass Posts: 206 Forumite
    Jimmy_31 wrote: »
    Oh right, we all must earn the exact same amount then.

    Am i in some kind of who earns the most money competition here.

    The ones you know who have got a few quid have probably made it by charging people like you an hourly rate:D

    One born every minute.

    we can all make assumptions based on stereotypes which alot on this thread and other forums seem to do towards public sector workers but thats ok as long as its not aimed at themselves (ps not a dig at you).
    Always remember that you're unique, just like everybody else:cool:
  • Jimmy_31
    Jimmy_31 Posts: 2,170 Forumite
    discoass wrote: »
    we can all make assumptions based on stereotypes which alot on this thread and other forums seem to do towards public sector workers but thats ok as long as its not aimed at themselves (ps not a dig at you).

    There are public sector workers who are stealing a living.

    There are public sector workers who do a hard days graft every day and earn a crap wage for it.
  • discoass
    discoass Posts: 206 Forumite
    Jimmy_31 wrote: »
    There are public sector workers who are stealing a living.

    There are public sector workers who do a hard days graft every day and earn a crap wage for it.


    as there is in all walks of life ,anybody that falls for the current "divide and rule" thats going on needs to get a grip :)
    Always remember that you're unique, just like everybody else:cool:
  • Jimmy_31
    Jimmy_31 Posts: 2,170 Forumite
    discoass wrote: »
    as there is in all walks of life ,anybody that falls for the current "divide and rule" thats going on needs to get a grip :)

    Grass is green

    Snow is white

    MrRee is in the 5hit financially.

    Next fact please:)
  • discoass
    discoass Posts: 206 Forumite
    Jimmy_31 wrote: »
    I get no contract, holiday pay, sick pay or pension.
    Jimmy_31 wrote: »
    Grass is green


    Next fact please:)

    you need a better job :)
    Always remember that you're unique, just like everybody else:cool:
  • cepheus
    cepheus Posts: 20,053 Forumite
    edited 20 December 2011 at 8:51PM
    RJP33 wrote: »
    Vast majority of people in this country do not agree with you.
    Nonsense, and the fact that 10 people thanked you indicates how unrepresentative this board really is.
    An opinion poll commissioned by BBC News suggests 61% of people believe public sector workers are justified in going on strike over pension changes.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15910621

    One of the most parasitic sectors is the financial one, particularily those who make a living out of charging other people rent.
  • ruggedtoast
    ruggedtoast Posts: 9,819 Forumite
    edited 20 December 2011 at 11:22PM
    RJP33 wrote: »
    France, Germany, Japan, Canada etc. Other comparible countries with developed economies.

    Do you actually have any experience of those countries or are you just running your mouth to try and prove your point?

    When I lived in Tokyo I was meant to pay £100 ward tax each month for a tiny studio flat where I had to sort all my rubbish and wash it before putting it out otherwise an old lady would come and moan at me. That was on top of another £150 to buy into a government health insurance policy that only paid 90% of health bills.

    Then when my co-worker was taken badly sick and picked up in an ambulance it had to drive to three different hospitals before they found one who would even agree to let a non Japanese through the door.

    After 12 in Tokyo there is no public transport whatsoever, you walk or pay £10 a mile in a taxi.

    If you call the police there is a real possibility they will run away from whoever you have called them about if they look mean. Otherwise they will probably just tell you to sort it out between you.

    Public services in the UK really aren't that bad.
  • Andy_L
    Andy_L Posts: 13,068 Forumite
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    ILW wrote: »
    I can see the argument for a fireman retiring early, but an admin clerk is a different matter.

    and that would be why the fireman can retire ~10 years earlier than the admin clerk - who may well be ensuring that fireman gets paid so without them I suspect that fireman would "down hoses"
  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
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    ILW wrote: »
    I have to say that I did not notice any difference the last time they all went on strike. Should that tell us something?

    Would I notice a difference if you was on strike?
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • Andy_L
    Andy_L Posts: 13,068 Forumite
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    Generali wrote: »
    The teachers are a slightly different case as their pensions are funded for the most part.

    The current value of civil service unfunded pensions is, IIRC, £1,000,000,000,000 (a trillion quid) and that is just the cost of putting away enough money today to make the required payments in future.

    The teachers scheme is unfunded.

    By Civil Service I suspect you mean Public Sector as the CS is a small sub-group of the Public Sector.

    The £1 trillion number is based on some comedy assumptions. eg every worker does the full 40 years & gets pay rises/career progression of rpi+2.75%pa for all those 40 years.

    http://www.iea.org.uk/publications/research/sir-humphreys-legacy-facing-to-the-cost-of-public-sector-pensions
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