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Another Cordless Drill Thread - Brands

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    karl-123 wrote: »
    dewalt lead....

    others follow.......

    do your homework.........:T

    I suggest you read the thread. Many of us are talking from experience of owning and using these tools in the harshest of environments. I can say that Dewalt did not perform the best out of the top brands (although they were not bad).

    Instead of doing your homework perhaps you could read the thread?
  • leveller2911
    leveller2911 Posts: 8,061 Forumite
    edited 12 December 2011 at 11:07PM
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    karl-123 wrote: »
    dewalt lead....

    others follow.......

    do your homework.........:T


    De-Walt took their eye off the ball a few years back when they concentrated on workwear, nice tool belts and boots rather than developing their tools and I'm afraid its they who have been playing catch-up.......Its true De-walt lead but in polo shirts and fleeces.....:D

    Tool wise they are sadly lacking in development........ Most general builders wouldn't know where to Buy Hilti tools so wouldn't entertain buying them but they know they can buy De-walt from just about anywhere, good marketing but sadly lacking substance.. Just my opinion of coarse....
  • john.h
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    karl-123 wrote: »
    dewalt lead....

    others follow.......

    do your homework.........:T

    If you think Dewalt are the best brand you don't know much about power tools

    John..
  • I use makita myself. good value for money but in this case no £100 cordless drill will go into brick etc. get a mains sds drill and keep ur jbc for the other stuff.
  • john.h
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    daggy wrote: »
    I've been reading the forums and found various threads on cordless drills, but non that really answer my question...

    After a bit of reading I figure that it doesn't matter too much which brand of drill you buy, as long as it's one of the good ones, but I'm looking for guidance on what are the good brands.

    I currently have a Ni-Cd 18v JCB budget jobby that has lasted ages, but it seriously struggled when I was drilling into an exterior wall to put a tv bracket up, so I'd like another cordless drill. 18V; Li-Ion; double battery and quick charge.

    Over the next year I'll be boarding the loft out, building a shed, putting some decking in and possibly a new kitchen. Some other bits and bobs like new interior doors and shelves etc...

    So, which brands are good brands?

    Makita
    Bosch
    AEG
    DeWalt
    Ryobi
    B&D
    Macallister
    Other?

    I got my hands on a macallister drill at B and Q, but really wasn't impressed... am I wrong to think this?

    DeWalt are the boyos, but they are made by B&D who are generally considered to be poor?

    Budget is around £100

    Cheers.

    If i was you for the jobs you have listed i would buy a mains powered drill and a cordless impact driver...

    John...
  • tony6403
    tony6403 Posts: 1,257 Forumite
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    but in this case no £100 cordless drill will go into brick etc. get a mains sds drill and keep ur jbc for the other stuff.

    Absolutely wrong. I have drilled scores of bricks with a £99 Dewalt 18v cordless hammer drill.
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  • Leif
    Leif Posts: 3,727 Forumite
    karl-123 wrote: »
    an easy question to answer
    i have 25 yrs site plumbing exp,
    my cousin is a bonus joiner,35yrs site exp,


    DEWALT EVERY TIME :T:T:T:T:T

    YOU ARE WASTING YOUR TIME WITH ANYTHING ELSE

    http://www.dewalt.co.uk/

    Superman strikes again. Odd how lots of experienced people disagree with you.
    Warning: This forum may contain nuts.
  • elver_man
    elver_man Posts: 20,787 Forumite
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    Me I now use Makita cordless 18V Li-lon Combi Drill for most things and for corded have a couple of Bosch Professional drills.

    Had Dewalt in the past but experienced one to many failures to continue buying them.
    Thoughts:

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  • daggy
    daggy Posts: 1,167 Forumite
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    If you want the best, then I suggest Makita. I'm in the trade, and no one at the company I work for (electrical and plumbing) uses anything else. Builders seem to prefer DeWalt.

    However, if you wan't to stay within your budget, then Bosch would probably be a better bet. They are cheaper than the better brands (Makita, DeWalt, Milwaukee), but probably better value for a DIYer who isn't giving their tooling a hammering every day.

    Good Luck with your purchase.:)

    Cheers, yeah I preferred the feel of the Makita in hand when compared to the Bosch... both very nice, but I really like the Makita. I quite liked a Worx one that was on display too, but not sure if these are considered good?

    BandQ had a DeWalt on display, but it was locked in place, so I couldn't have a play with it. The BandD ones didn't feel too great,
    Leif wrote: »
    I have a Bosch PSB 18V LiIon drill that cost about £75 from Homebase after I applied a couple of deals i.e. on offer, and 15% off everything on that day. It is more than good enough for non professional use. A pro needs something that can work every day, every hour, every minute, for years, and survive being dropped, bashed, etc. That is why they pay more. It sounds like you are not going to give it pro usage.

    One point not yet mentioned is that the batteries are very expensive, so if you are likely to have multiple tools using LiIon batteries, it makes sense to buy one brand, so you can swap batteries between tools. This is especially true if you have one tool, such as a hedge trimmer, that gets little use. You can spread the load over multiple batteries, keep one charged as backup etc.

    That's a very good point.... I think I'm being swayed towards the Makita or Bosch drills. Are Makita's as easily sourced as Bosch, so far as different tools etc?

    Part of me is a little sceptical about a £100 DeWalt... I wonder if it's a standard Black and Decker with a boob job; as opposed to an actual high end DeWalt with better components...
    If I'm honest you're not spending your money effectively. For roughly £100 I got one of these for drilling holes in walls which it does really well.

    Screwfix Titan 5kg SDS £65 Item number 55660 (I'm new and can't post links)

    and I use a £30 cordless drill for screwing and light drilling as required. I've boarded a loft using it and fitted a kitchen too. I'd spend more if I was using it every day but for DIY there's no real point. Spending more on a cordless drill won't make it drill holes in brick much faster as you need some proper power behind it.

    That's a good point... my approach was going to be the inverse. Get a decent cordless and buy a cheap SDS plug in drill... would this work or is it better to spend more on the sds than the cordless?
    john.h wrote: »
    If i was you for the jobs you have listed i would buy a mains powered drill and a cordless impact driver...

    John...

    Could you elaborate... as in which for which jobs? I've no experience with impact drivers... are they hammer drills on steroids?
    I would agree with the majority. Having been a roofer and a ceiling fixer/dryliner (both these trades are some of the hardest on cordless) I can say that I would personally go for a Makita.

    I had several Dewalts when roofing and no cordless' lasted as well as the Makita which I ended up with. I also had a Hilti corded Hammer drill (absolutely brilliant but often had to replace the bushes) and a Bosch cordless hammer which was also good.

    As I said on the last Cordless Drill thread, if it were me I would wait until January and then buy the best Li-ion cordless which I could afford. Hope this helps

    Thanks for that... I'm starting to wonder if a DeWalt is a good investment and I also like the Makita in hand.

    With regards to the Hilti... if you had to keep replacing the bushes, would you recommend a Makita over a Hilti?
  • daggy
    daggy Posts: 1,167 Forumite
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    Screwfix are also doing a Maikita 18v with 3.0ah Li-ion batteries for £150 at the moment.

    I read in one thread that batteries below 1.5ah can struggle with longevity... is this true?

    Most of the £100ish drills in bandq are 1.5 or lower...

    cheers
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