do i need a tv licence to buy a new tv ?

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fwor wrote: »

You need a licence for a TV that is capable of receiving ~any~ live terrestrial channel

No you don't.

You need a licence for actually watching any live broadcasts, whether terrestrial or not.

You don't, however, require a licence for merely owning a TV, which is capable of receiving anything.

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grizzly1911 wrote: »

Then they have really got you when they track back to your IP.

How will they track back, when even my ISP doesn't know who I am :huh:

Lifeforms

Bedsit_Bob wrote: »

How will they track back, when even my ISP doesn't know who I am :huh:

You isp will know who you are, how else do you think all the pron sharers are now being prosecuted/chased for "fines" Via the O2 isp, and "Ben Dover" to name one example. l

It'll only be time before the likes of an entertainment tax comes in, that covers off and online (live, and not) films.

You do not have to have a licence to watch catchup, play games, watch vid/dvd etc. You only need a licence to actually watch live TV, and that is on a TV, or through any other product capable of doing so. so Live on PS, Xbox, phone, computer, tablet etc.

You do not have to give correct information to a retailer when you buy a TV. If you do, you will get letters that say you bought a TV, do you need a licence there? The retailer must pass on details, but you do not need to provide correct ones to pass on.

You will get random salespersons trying to "sell" you a licence under threat of massive court fines/jail, under the pretence of being a "Licence inspector".
You do not have to talk to them, you should not let them enter, and you should NEVER sign anything they ask you to sign. They get paid for every licence they get off you, and as has been proven, they will use any tactic, so think scaring your granny/wife/partner/older kids into buying one when needed or not.

Shut the door on them as soon as they identify themselves, and move on.

TV's cannot be made to just reject one channel.
The BBC takes the licence fee, but it covers all channels of live content.
There is no one sitting in a blacked out detector van waving a magic gun that tells them you are watching live TV. They cannot detect such a thing, detector vans are a big scare myth created to make people be so worried they paid.

If you are watching live TV and get caught through your own mistakes, ie admitting such to a sales person, then you're on your own. But don't expect them to have leniency if you phone up and say well the last two months I have kinda been watching it, so now I need to buy one.
As much as I disagree with it, it is the law, and you should live with in the law.

Mrs_Arcanum

We have at least 5 TV's at work and NO licence. They are only used for video conferencing.

The battles the office manager had with TVL were epic :rotfl:

vax2002

the Tv licence will be added on to broadband tax is the next year or so.
they wont let go of the money.

LincolnshireYokel

jamesperrett wrote: »

Couldn't you buy a computer monitor instead? No worries about licencing with them.

Its not what you buy, its what you do with it. You need a licence to operate equipment capable of receiving live tv broadcasts. If your TV has no aerial, or other signal feed that supplies TV signals, and all its used for is plugging into the Playstation or Nintendo, then you do not need a licence to buy, own or operate it. Similarly, you could get a friend to record TV on a VHS video recorder, and give the tape for you to play back later. If there is no other signal source to the recorder and TV, then you dont need a licence (but he does).

LincolnshireYokel

Lifeforms wrote: »

There is no one sitting in a blacked out detector van waving a magic gun that tells them you are watching live TV. They cannot detect such a thing, detector vans are a big scare myth created to make people be so worried they paid..

In the days of valve TV's detector vans DID work, because such TV's had a bloody great high voltage line transformer and local oscillator, and it acted like a Vestigial Side Band radio transmitter. Someone parked outside in a van with a radio reciever with a d/f loop and a modicum of technical know how could locate a working tv (but not determine what you were watching). The proof of this, if you like, is that the Americans developed a technology called TEMPEST, using a similar idea, wich used high gain d/f aerials to pickup the line and frame scan oscillators on computer monitors, and they were able to park outside the Russian Embassy and read what was on the computer screens. The result was TEMPEST-proofed computer monitors, internally screened in mu-metal cages that couldnt be read remotely.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TEMPEST
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Eck_phreaking

However, with the advent of microchip technology, and LED screens, the Line Output Transformer and associated high voltage electronics have vanished, making the detector van principle a non worker anymore. Thats why they had to resort to recruiting stooges to knock on doors.

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Lifeforms wrote: »

You isp will know who you are

Trust me. They don't know who I am.

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Nilrem wrote: »

Is bedsit bob on a mission to bump every TVL thread on MSE?

I'm just catching up on threads that were here before I joined.

Nilrem

The_Safordian wrote: »

Like magic someone shows up who fights tooth and nail to make sure people keep paying their BBC TV Licence like a good little boy




Proof of what I said, here one of them is trying to stop criticism of the BBC and acting like a back-seat moderator. You should look at people like Nilrem when your BBC TV Licence renewal is due..

Does Nilrem wish to stay on topic, like hell he does the BBC doesn't pay Fishburn Hedges to do that

I was commenting on the silly hyperbole (facists) that generally doesn't improve any argument, and the fact that Bedsit Bob had seemed to have resurrected a lot of threads that were dormant/dead (and unlikely to have the people he was replying to back again unless by chance).
Not backseat moderating just an observation, and not something I'd normally comment on except that I spotted in one thread that he was replying to stuff months old, then spotted it again in another, and then in a third and spotted a pattern.

And you're at the stupid accusations again.
If I'm paid to do anything on any forum, or by the BBC it must be done behind my back - last time I checked I actually paid them (about £147 a year).