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  • aupt
    aupt Posts: 38 Forumite
    Quentin wrote: »
    ..... you did in fact post on Mr Yendal's thread requesting his customers at imutual to come here and post nice things about your company that you had (belatedly) complied with his request! (Presumably your shareholding increased after that post)

    NO - I did not. Yet another incorrect accusation. My post on imutual was: "Sorry I am a bit pushed for time today but I have responded on MSE now.

    I sincerely hope that MSErs will simply check out imutual for themselves."

    Please do read it and you will see that what you write is again TOTALLY WRONG.


    I would like to reiterate that, despite several incorrect accusations to the contrary, all I have ever done is encourage other MSE users to check out imutual for themselves. I have done this because in my personal opinion, with all things considered, imutual is probably the best cashback site.

    When some MSE users disagree with this (disagreement is fine - everyone is entitled to their personal opinion) they have chosen to accuse me of all sorts of things (not fair, certainly not correct and a little pathetic!). I state again I have never sort to gain ANYTHING from this - I was just pointing users in the direction of imutual for their own benefit. :T
    Quentin wrote: »

    Though can't be worth too much as you insist the shares are not worthless, yet have now told us each 100,000 are actually worth 1p!

    To be honest, I can't actually understand your sentence here.

    I have already explained in an earlier post my views on the shares - they are a bonus which are not worth a lot at the moment but who knows what their value will be in the future. Seeing as they are a bonus and you still get 100% cashback as well, I have never understood why you think their present value is such an issue.:question:

    Happy Christmas. :beer:
  • Quentin
    Quentin Posts: 40,405 Forumite
    aupt wrote: »
    NO - I did not. Yet another incorrect accusation. My post on imutual was: "Sorry I am a bit pushed for time today but I have responded on MSE now.

    I sincerely hope that MSErs will simply check out imutual for themselves."

    Please do read it and you will see that what you write is again TOTALLY WRONG.

    Why you shouting?

    Of course I'm not "totally wrong":

    Mr Yendall moaned he wasn't allowed to post on MSE, and asked for his shareholders to post here instead, (even feeding them some lines to use), and you responded to him as you say:
    My post on imutual was: "Sorry I am a bit pushed for time today but I have responded on MSE now.......

    And you continue to tell us again that the shares are "not worth a lot at the moment", when in fact they are worthless "at the moment" (though your pedantic answer when this is pointed out to you that they are in fact worth 1p per 100,000!)

    You tell us that you come here as you believe them to be "probably the best cashback site".

    But this is MSE, so the best cashback site is the one that gives us the best cashback! Not one that has the owner getting his members to come here and promote it for him, and doesn't give the best rates at all! (What happened to his highest cashback promise which he used to pay out on at rpoints when he owned that site?)
  • aupt
    aupt Posts: 38 Forumite
    Quentin wrote: »

    Of course I'm not "totally wrong":

    Yes you are, for at least two reasons:

    1. My original MSE post was BEFORE that thread you quote on imutual (I am well aware of the significance of that thread which is why I have quoted it myself in earlier posts on this thread). Please do have a look at the dates and times on this and the thread on imutal. This thread was started by me on Wednesday 07-12-2011, at 5:55 PM. (and, of course, my original, original post was a day earlier but was sadly, and inexplicably, deleted) The imutual thread you refer to was started on Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:26 am. Do you accept that this thread was started BEFORE the one on imutual? if so, then unless I am a time traveler then I can't understand why you accuse me of responding to a request made on that imutual thread. In actual fact, if you read all the relevant posts you will realise that Richard was actually responding to my post - so you have it exactly the wrong way around.

    2. I explained several posts back why I posted those words on imutual and it certainly was not me responding to Richard Yendall. If I had wanted to do reply to him directly, wouldn't I have sent him a PM???? In the same way that people on MSE generally don't expect Martin to read all posts neither should Richard be expected to on imutual.

    I suppose I should be grateful that you now seem to have given up of accusing me of being Richard Yendall :T
    Quentin wrote: »
    And you continue to tell us again that the shares are "not worth a lot at the moment", when in fact they are worthless "at the moment" (though your pedantic answer when this is pointed out to you that they are in fact worth 1p per 100,000!)
    Me being pedantic?? It was you who picked me up for saying the "shares were worth not a lot at the moment". A statement which is absolutely correct! You said I was wrong and I pointed their nominal value out. So I didn't set out to give their value but I had no choice but to clarify why you were wrong.
    Quentin wrote: »
    You tell us that you come here as you believe them to be "probably the best cashback site".

    But this is MSE, so the best cashback site is the one that gives us the best cashback!

    Yes, for reasons explained above I do believe that imutual is probably the best cashback site.

    Your second sentence is only correct if the site offering the best cashback actually tracks and pays out the sum as promised.

    AuPt
  • Quentin
    Quentin Posts: 40,405 Forumite
    You keep returning here to insist "your" shares are worth something - yet you tell us they are worth one hundred thousandth of a penny each!

    Come off it.
  • bristolleedsfan
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    edited 28 December 2011 at 7:18PM
    aupt wrote: »
    Your second sentence is only correct if the site offering the best cashback actually tracks and pays out the sum as promised.

    /QUOTE]

    TCB and GPB do track and pay out higher rates of cashback on many more merchant offers than I-Mutual do - That is a fact not an opinion


    Before you ask me how can I be sure - Answer is only time I-Mutual pay more than 100% rate is when they do so as loss leaders on less than a handful of offers in the hope that its most ardent supporters will post such loss leading offers on MSE in the name of "spread the word" whereas GPB and TCB offering, tracking and paying more than 100% rate on its merchant offers is as common as night following day.

    Even when I-Mutual runs its less than a handful loss leading cashback offers in expectation that its most ardent supporters will post the offers on MSE in hope of recruiting more members TCB match them with HCP claim

    As you can see TCB rate is minimum 101% on all its merchant offers as a matter of fact

    http://www.topcashback.co.uk/topups
  • bristolleedsfan
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    edited 28 December 2011 at 7:51PM
    aupt wrote: »
    I have already explained in an earlier post my views on the shares - they are a bonus which are not worth a lot at the moment but who knows what their value will be in the future. Seeing as they are a bonus and you still get 100% cashback as well, I have never understood why you think their present value is such an issue.:question:

    Reason is that I-Mutual most ardent supporters have been using the free shares worth at best next to nothing as a way of attempting to promote the site on MSE aka "spread the word" and is the only company to the best of my knowledge to both hold an AGM via Shareholdings worth at best next to nothing and have someone post about it on MSE despite apparent fact that only 50 members were interested in the AGM to vote online as opposed to over 2000 members who by their apparent lack of voting actions couldnt care less about the AGM yet you believed it was a matter for a "Money Saving Forum" and have questioned why MSE Forum team on behalf of the owner of MSE Forum deleted your posts about it.
  • bristolleedsfan
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    edited 1 January 2012 at 12:00PM
    Quentin wrote: »
    But this is MSE, so the best cashback site is the one that gives us the best cashback!QUOTE]

    You mean like this :rotfl:


    http://www.imutual.co.uk/debt-management/vanquis-bank 20.00 + 200 Shares at time of posting


    http://www.topcashback.co.uk/vanquis_credit_card/ 41.20 with no Shares at time of posting


    Aupt - I say this in the nicest possible way, you should have just posted that I-Mutual are currently the best Cashback Site for daily clicks as that would have been a sure fire winner rather than embark on what clearly from the outset was a lose lose crusade/attempt to promote I-Mutual on MSE -

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.php?p=46644507&postcount=17 ;)


    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.php?p=48233403&postcount=193 ;)


    I have been :think: Aupt if you strongly believe that Companies AGMs are a " Money Saving" event then maybe you might feel it would be a good idea to suggest to :money: or MSE Forum team that a new Sub-Forum is created titled Company AGMs :)




    If as you say "I-Mutual are probably the best Cashback Site" why is it that TCB offer at time of posting 50,.50 for Post Office Credit Card application acceptance whereas I-Mutual dont even have the offer and no it didnt track for me on a deferred decision, yes it did pay ;)

    http://www.topcashback.co.uk/post_office/

    http://www.imutual.co.uk/credit-cards
  • bristolleedsfan
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    edited 14 February 2012 at 11:30PM
    aupt wrote: »
    ... but so what that the shares are worth not a lot at the moment (it is technically incorrect to say that they are worth nothing) they are a bonus - you still get the 100% cashback.

    .


    http://www.topcashback.co.uk/xbingo/ 25.25


    http://www.getpoundsback.co.uk/stores/xbingo/ 26.25


    http://www.imutual.co.uk/bingo/xbingo 10.00


    IMHO, The best Cashback Sites pay 100% + Cashback every time/all the time ;)
  • aupt
    aupt Posts: 38 Forumite
    You have selected the one site which has been discussed endlessly on various different web forums in recent weeks.

    I think it is well known that every so called 100% site has some sites where for various reasons (some justified and some perhaps not) they do not pay 100%.

    Surely the best cashback site is one which actually pays out? There are lots of posts where the two sites you promote are criticized for not paying out.
  • bristolleedsfan
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    edited 17 February 2012 at 9:35PM
    aupt wrote: »
    You have selected the one site which has been discussed endlessly on various different web forums in recent weeks.

    I think it is well known that every so called 100% site has some sites where for various reasons (some justified and some perhaps not) they do not pay 100%.

    Surely the best cashback site is one which actually pays out? There are lots of posts where the two sites you promote are criticized for not paying out.



    I have merely been responding to your posts or to be more precise evidencing against what you have said, every time your reason (s) for I-Mutual being in your words “probably the best Cashback Site” has been responded to and/or evidenced against you come back with another reason. :rotfl:


    Perhaps you would be so kind as to evidence your comments ;)



    “I think it is well known that every so called 100% site has some sites where for various reasons (some justified and some perhaps not) they do not pay 100%”.



    Please provide us with evidences howing that Quidco, GPB. TCB, Fatcheese are “ALL” not paying minimum of 100% rate on “some sites” for a spend transaction which is what X-Bingo is


    “There are lots of posts where the two sites you promote are criticized for not paying out”.


    Can you please provide links to the “lots of posts” that you are referring to in relation to the “two sites”



    If as you say I-Mutual is probably the best Cashback Site, where is Netflix, Post Office Credit Card – or to be more precise where is the merchant Post Office on I-Mutual?


    http://www.quidco.com/netflix/?ac

    http://www.topcashback.co.uk/netflix/

    http://www.imutual.co.uk/search?q=netflix&x=12&y=15



    http://www.quidco.com/post-office-credit-cards/?ac

    http://www.topcashback.co.uk/post_office/

    http://www.imutual.co.uk/search?q=post+office&x=11&y=3


    If as you say I-Mutual is probably the best Cashback Site

    Why is N-Power Dual Fuel switch maximum 35.00 on I-Mutual compared with minimum 45.00 up to 90.00 on TCB and Minimum 40 Maximum 100.00 on Quidco ? – Rates correct at time of posting


    http://www.imutual.co.uk/energy-suppliers/npower


    http://www.topcashback.co.uk/npower/


    http://www.quidco.com/npower/?ac



    Why is SSE maximum Cashback on I-Mutual 23.20 compared with maximum50.50 on TCB and Maximum 50.00/60.00 on Quidco?Rates correct at time of posting

    http://www.imutual.co.uk/energy-suppliers/scottish-and-southern-energy

    http://www.topcashback.co.uk/sse/ http://www.quidco.com/sse/
    http://www.quidco.com/sse-atlantic/




    And why at 12.40 PM have you come to MSE aiming the word “promote” Allegation/Insinuation at me :( the word “promote” having been used by me as Cashbacklover on I-Mutual forum at 11.26am in relation to a I-Mutual member who just happens to be I-Mutuals biggest member Shareholder as I previously detailed in my earlier posts on this thread?

    http://www.imutual.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=8031&sid=cba04f38c4b8a78298b82a6dd1423ac5&start=10 ( Post 4 – Last line)
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