'Child Support Maintenance Calculation Regulations 2012' - consultation period

Light_Speed_Cruiser

1. No
2. No
3. No, NRP’s are required to notify changes already
4. Remove it, its not relevant
5. CM is earnings related. Unearned income is what greedy ex-spouses claim as alimony
6. No
7. No
8. No
9. Bad idea, Should apply to all or none.
10. No, should be linked to earnings

PreludeForTimeFeelers

jarhead66 wrote: »

I always find it strange that the CSA tell me that its my M.P's fault and my M.P. says that its the CSA who failed to provide what they promised!!

You might find this hard to believe, but MPs lie.


Also, there is no Santa Claus.

jarhead66

So what you are saying is that M.P's and the CSA have alot in commen!!! They both lie!!! Well it looks like us stuck on CSA1 don't stand a chance of ever getting moved to a fairer scheme!!

Blob

Anyone that thinks that this will be sorted in anything short of the next century is off the wall! We were all told that the new system that came in in March 2003 was going to be the answer to all the woes of the system! Like many others I am still waiting to be moved to CSA2. It very simply put was a white wash by a Gov Department that is a total disaster and run by people that are mentally challenged and don't answer the same question the same way twice or understand the law that they are supposed to be upholding. They are not accountable for their actions, but worse they have been told that they are unfit for purpose, and that was from the 'Dispatch Box' by the Prime Minister! Worse still they have been found to be responsible for the death of at least 63 people by Coroners Courts!

What this new effort has failed to even ask is should there be a 'Duty of Care' on the part of the CSA. My view is yes there should, and the people that attend there as their place of employment should be held accountable in person for the results of their actions. To my way of reading this they want to put all of the responsibility on to the NRP, this cannot be allowed to happen, all parties are responsible for this not just the one, that is a cope out, and is an attempt to villainies the NRP.

It also opens up the field to people that want to use children as a weapon to get at their ex, is that what the system was set up for, as it has defiantly turned in to a weapon for some.

It is a thought that if the system was not so one sided, and set against the NRP, and this has been accepted in the High Court as to be the case, before anyone wants to jump on me for this! Then there would possibly be far less problems with making the system work. It is forgotten on many occasions that NRP's are both male and female, as well as the fact that they have to be able to live after the end of any relationship, and that is not to end up living on the street in a cardboard box, as some would have it.

jarhead66

WELL SAID BLOB!!!

All we can do is hope that the CSA get it right this time!!!!

PreludeForTimeFeelers

Blob wrote: »

Worse still they have been found to be responsible for the death of at least 63 people by Coroners Courts!

Really? Is this a fact?

Evidence..?

kevin137

PreludeForTimeFeelers wrote: »

Really? Is this a fact?

Evidence..?

How far back to you want to go...???

http://www.ukmensaid.org.uk/men-csa-inmem.htm

kevin137

This one particularly rings a note of common practice...!!! And again it is never the fault of the CSA, if there is any case that DEMANDS that they be held accountable in the future, then this is a prime example of why they should have a "DUTY OF CARE" forced upon them....!!!


Lloyd Mather

The Mirror 30 April 1999

A father killed himself after he was wrongly told he’d have to pay more to the CSA, an inquest heard yesterday.

Lloyd Mather, 39, gassed himself in his car.

But ten days after his death a letter to him from the CSA revealed that a mistake had been made.

He had actually been overcharged by £700.

The father of two, an engineer, had been very worried about money in the months leading up to his death, the inquest at Winchester heard.

"He said he was having a problem financially with the amount of money the CSA were taking", his father Roy Mather said.

"The CSA changed the amount Lloyd was having to pay at the end of last year and it was upped.

"After his death his employer received a letter from the CSA saying they had made a mistake to the tune of £700".

Lloyd from Andover, Hants, was found dead in his Mini on the edge of farmland at nearby Tangley by a motorist.

His father added that Lloyd split from his partner ten years ago and she lived in Great Yarmouth with their children.

A former heroin addict Lloyd had become a volunteer worker at a drugs advisory service in Andover. Friend Margaret Cuniffe, the service co-ordinator, said she became worried about him.

"When he became a volunteer he said he had been clean for three years and the problem was behind him." But she said she went to see him in January and knew he must be taking drugs again.

"He was very worried about having to pay more money to the CSA," she said. "He was working but his hours had been cut down."

Mid Hants coroner Grahame Short said: "I don’t think we will ever know for sure why he took his own life.

"I think it was a combination of his inability to break his drug habit, the financial pressures he found mounting against him and in particular the problems with the CSA."

Verdict: suicide.

jarhead66

I wonder if his case worker got away scot free??? or did the CSA use the excuse that the case work was just following the rules!! I thought that went out in 1945??

PreludeForTimeFeelers

http://www.childsupportanalysis.co.uk/analysis_and_opinion/politics_and_lobbying/suicide_and_the_csa.htm

It's impossible to pinpoint the cause of suicide, and is rarely just one factor. The report above implies that statistically there are less suicides in cases involving the CSA.