Message for strikers

Mistral001

browneyedbazzi wrote: »

So the average full time worker with 30 years of service retiring now would receive a pension of £11478
The average part time worker with 30 years of service would receive a pension of £7720

!

Thus assuming that these figures are correct, the pension for fulltime workers is over twice the median quoted in press and media and 47% more than the quoted average.

The_ICT_Engineer

People in the public sector don't pay taxes. They simple recycled them.

Gordon Brown should have been 'hung, drawn and quartered' for what he did to the private sector pension funds with his tax grabbing.

jancee_2

Another idea might be for the Government to tackle the estimated £69B, yes SIXTY NINE BILLION POUNDS that is lost to tax evasion. Illegal tax evasion that is, not legal tax avoidance.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/offshorefinance/8910361/Tackle-Tax-Havens-campaign-launched.html

Oh wait, no, that would affect the rich wouldn't it? :mad:

honey06

attila_ wrote: »

The Tory's manifesto in 2010 on public sector had no mention that unsustainable public pension schemes would remain untouched.

claims by the Government that public pensions are unsustainable was disproved by the Hutton report.

QuackQuack_2

Strikes are wrong at the best of times, but seriously these people need to quit griping about it as their case is utterly lame and lacks much public support.

A couple of things did amuse me. My local hospital had about 65 people out on the picket line out of some 3,000 employees. Yet one staff member said to me "They'll stand on the picket line, but you can't get them to work a days overtime" another "It's nice working here today, all the trouble makers and moaners are not here."

Local TV ran a story on a man who had to get a taxi to hospital, instead of an ambulance. That's pretty much normal service then.

The Job Centre Website had less updating/new jobs on it than usual - but predominantly in areas with Labour controlled councils for some reason.

There was very little disruption in general - save for schools. With this in mind perhaps we could be shedding some more public sector jobs? After all if they can walk out for a day and make no noticeable difference, are they needed in the first place?

A '''big''' demonstration in London was great because the strikers would have had to dip in their pockets and pay their own fares to get there - let's hope they came from far and wide

Finally I guess I look at it like this; If someone can afford the luxury of taking a day off without pay to strike, they are clearly paid too much to start with.

We live in a democracy - if they don't like their job or conditions, they are more than welcome to change jobs! Perhaps make the trip to Eastern Europe and work for a pound an hour?

Sambucus_Nigra

wantsajob wrote: »

If you do not like the arrangements for pensions, please quit your jobs and make way for the millions of unemployed who do not mind, and want to work for a living rather than moan. Be glad just to have a job, and if the pension issue bothers you save up.

The thing is, and many people seem to be missing this point - if the pension arrangements go ahead, more people will retire later leaving even less jobs for the unemployed.

So you should be supporting them, if this is what is important to you.

Micky_Mouse

ohreally wrote: »

wantsajob, you appear to have been bred from a very shallow, polluted gene pool which has impinged your cognitive capacity.

Approaching the clouded issues from a different perspective, the pension provision is deferred pay and is contractual (reflect on this one a little).

If one doesn't like an aspect of the job you fight to improve it, you don't run away with your tail between your legs. Realise this is an attack on predominately low paid women workers to fund banking/ economic catastrophes.

The way forward is not to race towards the lowest common denominator for all (in dedicated public service).

In solidarity, brothers and sisters.

And this weeks plain english award nomination goes to.....

dandelionclock30

If the pension age is to rise to 67 that will mean that jobseekers are expected to look for a job until their 67 too?
I challenge anyone over 50 to get a job in todays climate and anyone over 60, well unless it was working for a friend/family member or you were in a very specialist field I wouldnt like to rate your chances.
Age discrimination is absolutley rife.

k66yla

All I'm hearing is Private less Public more. Why are you 'Private' pension holders not doing something about it? Instead you want to bring everyone down to your so called 'rubbish pension' level. Have'nt you got a backbone or can't you be bothered?

dickydonkin

QuackQuack wrote: »

Strikes are wrong at the best of times, but seriously these people need to quit griping about it as their case is utterly lame and lacks much public support.

Where I live, the local news conducted a poll amongst the general public and there was 60+% in support of the strike.

As for stating that 'Strikes are wrong at the best of times' then that comment should be treat with the contempt it deserves.

I am assuming you are working - therefore I am also assuming you will have decent working conditions, a safe place to work, paid holidays.......I can go on.

You are fortunate to have such working conditions due to the struggles of past workers who had to fight for basic decent working conditions - and the threat to withdraw their labour was a bargaining tool to ensure workers were afforded a living wage and a decent working environment.

Despite the Tory's attempts to supress unions and amend employment law to 'remove red tape to allow employers to recruit', we still retain the right to strike.

Incidentally, we all know that the proposed amendment to employment law will not create one single job - nor will the proposed amendments to health and safety legislation.

It seems this 'government' would be quite happy with a Victorian industrial landscape - what next?........do we return to the days when we send little boys up chimneys?

The only 'success' this government has achieved to date is to have the working class fighting amongst themselves. This thread compounds that view!

There are many strikes that have occurred in the past that I don't agree with - the recent BA dispute is a prime example - but if the day ever came when workers lost the right to strike, then that would be a sad day for everyone.