Message for strikers

Mistral001

mickey54 wrote: »

And your position in life is???

Does it matter?

Just because someone works in on a construction site or is a cleaner in an office or is a garage mechanic and does not work for the NHS or some other public service does not mean that they do not have a position in life.

mickey54

Mistral001 wrote: »

Does it matter?

Just because someone works in on a construction site or is a cleaner in an office or is a garage mechanic and does not work for the NHS or some other public service does not mean that they do not have a position in life.

Think you have taken my question in the wrong way.

By reading his post - I assumed he was one on the well off pensioners, who are always questioning other peoples motives.

Nothing wrong with working in construction - or being a cleaner!!! Who said there was?

Mistral001

mickey54 wrote: »

Think you have taken my question in the wrong way.

By reading his post - I assumed he was one on the well off pensioners, who are always questioning other peoples motives.

Nothing wrong with working in construction - or being a cleaner!!! Who said there was?

Thought you were implying that someone who worked in a public sector job had some sort of special position in life just because they work in it.

mynameisdave

Stylehutz wrote: »

Yes that's right Andy give the jobs to the Poles just so they can send the money back home and not put it into the UK economy.
They are happy to do the work as you say and from experience if there was no NMW they would work for £3.00 per hour.

I'm sure that the stikers will be delighted to know they have bigots on their side.

SarEl

wantsajob wrote: »

If you do not like the arrangements for pensions, please quit your jobs and make way for the millions of unemployed who do not mind, and want to work for a living rather than moan. Be glad just to have a job, and if the pension issue bothers you save up.

I would remind you that

(a) the millions of workers who are on strike today are amongst those paying for the unemployed and everyone else who isn't working (like you I guess from your user ID), and whilst some people want to work, there seems to be a fair few who also don't want to.

So if they are willing to fight to stop their conditions from being eroded then good luck to them.

(b) Since they are not getting paid for today, they also won't be paying any taxes for today either - so that'll be another reason to cut benefits as there won't be quite as much money in the pot to pay for them. I presume you will be willing to take the hit to help the country out?

DVardysShadow wrote: »

The bankers have robbed the economy blind and people's pensions are being robbed. The last thing we need is some little quisling to lend legitimacy to it.

Good grief - I think that is possibly the third time we have agreed on something!

Mistral001

Apparently, workers who worked in the public sector for a short time are included in the quoted "average" figure of £7000 which is being knocked about on radio, TV and the press.

I am one of those people. My expected pension from my three year public sector job 30 years ago will give me £200 a year at age 66 the last time I looked. I bet myself and millions others who only had short periods with the public sector are bringing that average down a fair bit.

dandelionclock30

The public sector workers have the right to a decent pension and the unemployed have the right to a decent job.Ideally everybody should be supportive of each others struggle.

SarEl

Mistral001 wrote: »

Apparently, workers who worked in the public sector for a short time are included in the quoted "average" figure of £7000 which is being knocked about on radio, TV and the press.

I am one of those people. My expected pension from my three year public sector job 30 years ago will give me £200 a year at age 66 the last time I looked. I bet myself and millions others who only had short periods with the public sector are bringing that average down a fair bit.

You are correct - the average isn't a useful figure. The median is a much more useful figures and that is the one used by Lord Hutton in the government commissioned independant inquiry into public sector pension. The median public sector pension is actually £5,200.

attila_

wantsajob wrote: »

If you do not like the arrangements for pensions, please quit your jobs and make way for the millions of unemployed who do not mind, and want to work for a living rather than moan. Be glad just to have a job, and if the pension issue bothers you save up.

Hear Hear!

The bankers have robbed the economy blind and people's pensions are being robbed. The last thing we need is some little quisling to lend legitimacy to it.

In 1998 the Labour Government relaxed regulations on banking and other financial activities...Who put them in power? The same who were demanding Cameron to leave today during the strikes....

Bottom line - we've had it good, too good. We all have to pay through unemployment, loss of pension and no pay rises...

Stylehutz

attila_ wrote: »

Hear Hear!

In 1998 the Labour Government relaxed regulations on banking and other financial activities...Who put them in power? The same who were demanding Cameron to leave today during the strikes....

Bottom line - we've had it good, too good. We all have to pay through unemployment, loss of pension and no pay rises...

But these people have been lied too by their employers or in effect the current Tory government.They were promised a decent pension in return for taking low paid jobs which no-one at the time wanted to do .The employers have moved the goalposts:mad: