Capping benefits at 4 kids?

peachyprice

clearingout wrote: »

abortion rates could rocket.....baby abandonment.......kind of like the one-child policy in China?

I read it that the idea is that people already on benefits will not keep getting more and more money for each child they produce, so there should be no incentive for them to get pregnant in the first place, they just have to make proper use of the free contraception available to them.

Nara

peachyprice wrote: »

I read it that the idea is that people already on benefits will not keep getting more and more money for each child they produce, so there should be no incentive for them to get pregnant in the first place, they just have to make proper use of the free contraception available to them.

Great idea, why should i work my !!!! off and limit myself to one child so i can support everyone else's?

Person_one

From the UN convention on human rights:



Article 16.

(1) Men and women of full age, without any limitation due to race, nationality or religion, have the right to marry and to found a family. They are entitled to equal rights as to marriage, during marriage and at its dissolution.



Article 25.

(1) Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control.
(2) Motherhood and childhood are entitled to special care and assistance. All children, whether born in or out of wedlock, shall enjoy the same social protection.

peachyprice

Nobody is suggesting that peple do not have the right to found a family, but it's ridiculous that people keep breeding and breeding for financial gain at the expense of the nation.

Gloomendoom

:huh: Nobody is disputing the right to found a family.

Person_one

Gloomendoom wrote: »

:huh: Nobody is disputing the right to found a family.

As long as they don't have to claim benefits to support that family? You suggested that would be immoral...

moomoomama27

cleggie wrote: »

I think it should be capped at the amount of children you have when you first need to claim benefits (taking into account if someone is pregnant at that time obviously).

This, this is what should happen, then is someone who has 4 or 5 children find themselves on a benefit, then they will be catered for!

I think what 'we' should be aiming for (and achieving), is preventing people on benefit reproducing and getting more benefits. It should be a locked claim once you make it, whether that be with 1 child or 10!

Person_one

moomoomama27 wrote: »

This, this is what should happen, then is someone who has 4 or 5 children find themselves on a benefit, then they will be catered for!

I think what 'we' should be aiming for (and achieving), is preventing people on benefit reproducing and getting more benefits. It should be a locked claim once you make it, whether that be with 1 child or 10!

What about contraception failures? They do happen, even with vasectomy or the implant.

Your plan might see a lot of children malnourished and freezing, or a lot of parents either committing benefit fraud or turning to more antisocial crime.

moomoomama27

Person_one wrote: »

What about contraception failures? They do happen, even with vasectomy or the implant.

Your plan might see a lot of children malnourished and freezing, or a lot of parents either committing benefit fraud or turning to more antisocial crime.

Or :gasp: working more hours/more jobs to support said child!?

Person_one

moomoomama27 wrote: »

Or :gasp: working more hours/more jobs to support said child!?

Right, because its that easy, those 2.6 million unemployed people are all just lazy.

Where's the roll eyes smiley gone...