Translink/Metro Strike 30th November

marcowil

saverbuyer wrote: »

If you worked in the public sector you would just take it as part of you annual sick leave "entitlement".

Saver, do you have some sort of grudge against everyone in the Public Sector?

At least in any place I have worked, the vast majority of staff didnt/dont use sick leave as extra holidays. And those that did have now been rooted out thanks to the new procedures in most places within most public sector organisations.

There are now targets in place that have to be met regarding sick leave (or the lack of it rather) to the point where a lot of people are afraid to be off when genuinely ill for fear of being hounded by HR or their line managers. Those formal procedures track your sickness record and trigger anything from informal interview to disciplinary action.

almillar

Just for the record, sick leave in the civil service is down massively, but that'll never make the news.

kidshorsesdogs

saverbuyer wrote: »

If you worked in the public sector you would just take it as part of you annual sick leave "entitlement".

I was told by a friend that in her place, any non union members are not allowed to book that day off on annual leave, and if they ring in sick they must produce a Dr's line to prove they were sick!! Don't know how legal that is.. they must be in work that day to cover all the union members who will be on strike!

NAR

In the Civil Service, at any time annual leave must be approved before being taken. In this instance it may be refused because those going on strike may leave an office under-manned to function properly. There is not a blanket ban on annual leave. So it will be at the Office Manager's discretion to allow annual leave or refuse it.

Noelsagan

kidshorsesdogs wrote: »

I was told by a friend that in her place, any non union members are not allowed to book that day off on annual leave, and if they ring in sick they must produce a Dr's line to prove they were sick!! Don't know how legal that is.. they must be in work that day to cover all the union members who will be on strike!

That's terrible. If only there was some way in which such staff could organise to voice their collective disapproval of such diktats and challenge their legality. Oh wait ...;)

Fathero3

saverbuyer wrote: »

If you worked in the public sector you would just take it as part of you annual sick leave "entitlement".

I always thought that it was more rife in large private sector companies such as Shorts and H&W?

:shocked:

x12yhp

In these times I think it is very selfish to strike like this. There are thousands upon thousands of people who have no job at all and we have a bunch of people in a decent and secure job who are willing to mess the rest of us around so that they can get a better deal...

Unions are there to get the best for their members, they most definitely are not there to make sure that our society gets what is best.

AJQ1506

x12yhp wrote: »

Unions are there to get the best for their members, they most definitely are not there to make sure that our society gets what is best.

Don't you think the people who are members of unions are part of society?
Do you think society will improve by lowering standards for working class people?.... if so, tell us how...

x12yhp

AJQ1506 wrote: »

Don't you think the people who are members of unions are part of society?
Do you think society will improve by lowering standards for working class people?.... if so, tell us how...

I am part of society so someone should give me a billion pounds... that will make society better...

No. It is not that simple. The individual unions represent groups of people who are part of society. Not the majority part of society. Each one tends to represent a minority group. So that means a minority group is benefitting whilst the majority lose out (yes, someone has to pay for it).

In these times people should be thankful to have jobs. To turn round and stamp your feet for more money whilst thousands and thousands cannot get a job at all is just absurd and quite clearly not what is best for the greater population - only what is best for the individual group of people who are being greedy (and that is arguable because they do not make friends by doing it...).

AJQ1506

x12yhp - why should working class people be thankful to have jobs at this time?
They didn't create the deficit.

Who should they be thankful to?...:
The bankers who have robbed them?
The government who allow billions of £ to to be avoided in tax payments by the richest people in the UK?

How do you think majority lose out by the current public service pension arrangements?
It's simply not true!.... Why do you think public service workers, who also pay tax, should pay for bankers who gambled, lost, and then raided tax payers money?..

You haven't given one example in your reply to show how any working class person would benefit from the proposed public sector reforms.... That's because they won't.