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Very Rude Job Centre Staff

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  • Mickyrod,,

    bit of perspective here.

    She isn't a doctor is she?

    She has been working in the travel industry, booking holidays, not saving lives or helping people's health

    If someone wants to work they will take whatever job is available, some times you have to swallow your pride.
  • molerat
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    OP, if she is as bright as you suggest then she will easily be able to beat JCP at their own game ;)
  • ARM10
    ARM10 Posts: 58 Forumite
    I agree with the OP. :D



    Don't forget the recruitment process for specialist positions often take several months, with multiple rounds of interview and/or assessments. If you accept another job from Employer B whilst still being evaluated by Employer A, you would resign from Employer B having only worked there for a short period to "keep yourself busy".

    Businesses are very cognisant of high employee churn rate, as it wastes their time & resources to train new recruits, and educate them on their corporate procedures (making British business less competitive). You'll also most likely be left with a poor reference from Employer B.

    Short-termism is part of the reason the global economy is weak - JC staff should not be encouraging this sort of behaviour. People in the job market have a responsibility to work to the best of their ability - the higher the remuneration, the greater the tax revenues to HMRC (which in turn helps the government debt and economy etc).
  • lovinituk
    lovinituk Posts: 5,711 Forumite
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    ARM10 wrote: »
    Businesses are very cognisant of high employee churn rate, as it wastes their time & resources to train new recruits, and educate them on their corporate procedures (making British business less competitive). You'll also most likely be left with a poor reference from Employer B.
    I would imagine that taking a short term job in a different field would be looked upon more favourably than staying on JSA for weeks. Its not the same as, for example, jumping from one call centre job to another and then applying for yet another job in the same field.
  • ARM10
    ARM10 Posts: 58 Forumite
    lovinituk wrote: »
    I would imagine that taking a short term job in a different field would be looked upon more favourably than staying on JSA for weeks. Its not the same as, for example, jumping from one call centre job to another and then applying for yet another job in the same field.

    You're right, Employer A wouldn't mind :D It's Employer B (the one where you only worked short term) who would suffer, having put effort into training the new employee only to have him/her leave after a few weeks :rotfl:

    If this happens on a regular basis it really affects businesses competitiveness and the economy as a whole (not to mention it makes employers more wary about hiring new staff, just when we need to bring unemployment down!).

    JC staff are going for short term goals and forgetting about the bigger picture. It's like Japan attacking Pearl Harbor - win the battle, but lose the war ...
  • Evilm
    Evilm Posts: 1,950 Forumite
    pillion wrote: »
    Does anyone know why they have removed all the newspapers from the JCP waiting area? You used to be able to look through the jobs sections in all the local papers while you waited but they are not there anymore.

    My local centre put out folders with the lists of jobs recently put on the JC website instead. Normally they were only a single line of detail so you needed to ask for more info or take the number and look it up online when you got home if you were interested in one listed that you hadn't already seen.
  • LittleVoice
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    mickyrod wrote: »
    . . . After just 2 weeks of signing on, the staff are now trying to force her to look for a job as a receptionist, and are saying that if she does not apply she will be fined!

    . . .

    As her company have kept her on for 14 hours a week to help wind down the company, she is not getting any JSA. So all she is getting by way of benifits is her National Insurance paid.

    If she is not getting JSA, how can she be fined? She can't.

    If she does become eligible for contribution JSA (if she hasn't got a job when her part-time work ends), then they could "sanction", not fine!

    Elsewhere you have said she is earning £160 a week from the part-time working. In that case she would be paying NI and so I do not see that her attendance at the jobcentre is adding anything to her NI record.
  • lovinituk
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    ARM10 wrote: »
    You're right, Employer A wouldn't mind :D It's Employer B (the one where you only worked short term) who would suffer, having put effort into training the new employee only to have him/her leave after a few weeks :rotfl:

    If this happens on a regular basis it really affects businesses competitiveness and the economy as a whole (not to mention it makes employers more wary about hiring new staff, just when we need to bring unemployment down!).

    JC staff are going for short term goals and forgetting about the bigger picture. It's like Japan attacking Pearl Harbor - win the battle, but lose the war ...
    So the alternative is the job seekers stay on JSA waiting for the 'right' job to come along and the pressure is transferred to the benefits system instead!! Still not winning the war, is it!
  • HarryL
    HarryL Posts: 49 Forumite
    Seems to be that everyone is advising the OP to tell her daughter to look into other industries. Yes this is good advice. however. The OP states that her daughter will get fined if she doesn't apply for other jobs after 2 weeks being signed-on. So where I do see the point of applying for jobs in any industry in todays economy. I'd say that my experiences with the jobcentre tell me that what is happening to your daughter is not right. I found that only after the 3month or 6 month mark did they really start taking an interested in the jobs I was applying for and what industries they were in. Id get your daughter to talk to someone else in the job centre. Maybe try a supervisor or maybe even going to a different job centre to ask them what they think. Once you have contradicting advice you can start making more valid arguements.
  • ARM10
    ARM10 Posts: 58 Forumite
    edited 18 November 2011 at 4:56PM
    lovinituk wrote: »
    So the alternative is the job seekers stay on JSA waiting for the 'right' job to come along and the pressure is transferred to the benefits system instead!! Still not winning the war, is it!

    12 weeks is a reasonable time to keep looking for the 'right' job. I believe this is also the guideline JC advisors are instructed to follow, but as in the case of the OP they often ignore it :(. 2 weeks is far too soon!
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