Public Sector Pension Strikes – A JOKE !

Old_Slaphead

DCodd wrote: »

Who are employed by the state /crown to do so!

getting boring now!!!

Who are paid for by taxpayer.

Agreed, score draw, let's quit !

majorwally

When will you private sector folk wake up and smell the coffee?

We don't care what you think of us.

You can moan all you like, and boy, can you lot moan.
Most of you are on the make, trying to rip off old grannies by fitting a £20,000 roof for one broken slate.
Or the old boiler routine, "looks like it's a gonna luv, you'll be needing a new one, £5,000 please"

Private sector stinks to high heaven because all you care about is profit.
You don't really care about where your taxes go apart from you don't want decent hard working public sector folk to have any of it!
I never hear any of you moan about other drains on your taxation, like, benefits, illegal immigrants, illegal wars, etc, etc, etc, oh no, lets pick on some decent persons last few years of self worth.

We actually do care.
Yes, we care about our pension, of course we do.
Is there one person on this site who would relish working an extra 5 or 10 years?
Course not.
But that and job security and not wanting to rip people off is the reason we chose our careers.
But ultimately, we care about the people we help.

Lets go through some of the private sector jobs that you lot must be so proud of.

Mechanics-rest my case.
Banking-rest my case
Builders-rest my case
Retail-rest my case
Industry-rest my case

The other funny thing is, I never hear any of this rubbish when you guys need us. You know, when you leave us child minding while you go off to earn some extra overtime so you can rip off another old granny.
You love us then.
But OMG if we should maybe even hint at striking!
"What? On a school day. how dare they!"

Honestly, pathetic ain't the word.
Go and find some criminals to pick on, oh I forgot, we are the criminals.

Your all the same on this site

majorwally

oh, and you can reply but I won't be reading them, so you are wasting your time. And hey, don't you need it desperately?

societys_child

wally by name . . .

bilbo51

majorwally wrote: »

Your all the same on this site

Erm. No we're not.

bilbo51

ILW wrote: »

They should pay for their pensions out of their wages, like everybody else does. Possibly pay into a fund run by their unions, but don't expect guaranteed amounts if they cannot show the necessary return.

And who do you think should pay their wages?

The_Angry_Jock

majorwally wrote: »

rantings of a madman

Quite incredible :T:T

J_i_m

Well... I don't know :rotfl:

Maybe what we should gift the private sector is to completely abolish the public service... Income tax will fall very slight (or probably not all) and they can have the satisfaction to be mortally outraged when the private fire fighters refuse to put their house fire out when they already overspent on frivolous thing and can't afford to pay, or when a private ambulance goes back to base without the heart attack victim because they haven't got the funds to cover the medical fees and the banks says no, or when the school sends your child home because their last two cheques bounced

It is sad to see public sector workers vilanised or called greedy when the private banking chiefs who led us into these recessions that have decimated private pensions STILL enjoy salaries worth millions, STILL enjoy bonuses of millions and STILL have the comfort of pensions worth millions.

When we have policitians already with very generous salaries having the bulk of their expenses paid on top of their salaries, often including a second home and STILL with big pensions ON THE TAX PAYER.

When there are people who cost the tax payer more, who don't actually work, and don't want to work, yet amass benefits over £20k a year because they can't stop having kids and have to be housed, fed and watered etc ON THE TAX PAYER.

Yet.. It's the public's nurses, teachers, fire fighters etc who happen to be TAX PAYERS, who continue to get the lion share grief because of-course they cost the tax payer money and don't do anything for it :T

Methinks people in general need to reasses who are really the bigger drain on society.

Backbiter

Zelazny wrote: »

From what I can see, it's a pretty good deal (teacher on 30k, pays 3k per year for 40 years, total investment with returns at 5% above inflation is ~66.5k which would buy a pension of 3.3k or so per year. Instead they get 20k - so sounds very good to me)

Teacher on 30k pays 3k into a scheme, with an additional 14% employer contribution paid, making 6.2k in total, over 46 years until new retirement age of 68.
Put those figures into a pensions calculator, adjusted for inflation, allowing for spouse's benefit.
http://www.aviva-pensioncalculator.co.uk/
It gives a pension of 112% of the salary, or over £33000 a year. Compared to the 'very good deal' of £20k.
Is it really so strange why so many public sector workers are striking?


Presumably Aviva plan to make some profit out of those contributions, whereas the present teachers' scheme is a non-profit scheme, far cheaper to administer.

WhiteHorse

k66yla wrote: »

The government will sell off RM cheap to a foreign buyer and keep the pension deficit(approx £8b) because of the £24 billion of assets.

The usual racket - they sell our assets cheap to their chums whilst reserving the losses for the taxpayer.

Screwed twice!