Public Sector Pension Strikes – A JOKE !

sheffield_lad

michelle1506 wrote: »

It's the classic scheme. We don't get as much as what the public think! A 6k pension is hardly worth having!! I haven't done 30 years yet, am quite a way off.


Seems low for a wage of £27k. What type of scheme are you on (? % contributions made by you and your employer) and is your current wage a lot higher than your average wage over your 30 years of service?

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Oh the irony, I pay 10% into my company pension, earn a wage just over average and have a pension forecast of £7K

Is the penny dropping of just how good the PS have it and even after the deal its still good grrrrrr

michelle1506

Oh for gods sake why dont you lot just find someone else to jump all over!

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Kazzabell80 wrote: »

Well I have worked in the Public Sector for 6 years and have moved jobs 4 times - hardly job for life.

Also, I am paid below the average UK salary and have been on a pay freeze for the last few years.

I have been to uni and have studied for a professional qualification (Accountant), I signed up for one thing and am being told that I am going to get something else.

Btw - my counterparts in the Private Sector earn on average more than I do.

I also work 2 jobs as do many of my colleagues just to put food on the table.

Yes, I agree that in some sections there are individuals that do very little but I have worked in the Private Sector also and there are equally some lazy people there too.

I agree 100% with the strike tomorrow.

Well, you may want to ask yourself just why you are working where you are rather than in the private sector. With a decent degree from a worthwhile institution and a meaningful accountancy qualification there is simply no way one could earn under the average wage.

In fact, even a qualified accountant within the masses of the government sector would earn way more than the average wage.

As your main problem seems to stem from your salary, perhaps look into that first.

sheffield_lad

michelle1506 wrote: »

Oh for gods sake why dont you lot just find someone else to jump all over!

When you finally lift your heads out of the sand and stop believing you are the 'special ones' you do a job for the public.

you are a public servant, not the other way around.

Welcome to planet earth, the rest of us have the same struggles but we have just got on with it. The difference now is we are sick of paying not only for our futures but for yours too!

GRRRR

Kazzabell80

Lokolo wrote: »

You should be comparing like for like. So instead of comparing against UK average salary, you should compare against the same position, age and job, in the private sector.

As for being on a pay freeze, being in the private sector doesn't stop this.

Salary surveys are often printed in financial magazines comparing like for like...it is this information that I am referring to.

I appreciate that the private sector doesn't stop a pay freeze, I am just highlighting the fact that some people seem to think that we have it so cushy when it couldn't be further from the truth.

Going from temporary contract to temporary contract - hardly the job security that you hear lots about in the media.

pioneer22

You work in the private sector yet you complain about your pensions, if working in the public sector is so good and you get so many amazing perks from doing it, well you can always retrain and come and join us.

Goldenyears

michelle1506 wrote: »

Oh for gods sake why dont you lot just find someone else to jump all over!

Michelle you should have two figures in your forecast, benefits to calculation date (£6K ??) and projected to pension age (£10K ??).
From the figures you provided the calculation is simple and the CS Classic conditions are easy to work out.

Kazzabell80

howee wrote: »

When you finally lift your heads out of the sand and stop believing you are the 'special ones' you do a job for the public.

you are a public servant, not the other way around.

Welcome to planet earth, the rest of us have the same struggles but we have just got on with it. The difference now is we are sick of paying not only for our futures but for yours too!

GRRRR

So who will be paying your pension when you retire?

dizzie

Kazzabell80 wrote: »

"(Dizzie) Sorry, but I don't think the public sector owes anyone a job for life just because they've trained to do it. That doesn't happen in the private sector and I don't think PS workers should be treated as a "special case"!

Well I have worked in the Public Sector for 6 years and have moved jobs 4 times - hardly job for life."
Also, I am paid below the average UK salary and have been on a pay freeze for the last few years.
I have been to uni and have studied for a professional qualification (Accountant), I signed up for one thing and am being told that I am going to get something else.
Btw - my counterparts in the Private Sector earn on average more than I do.
I also work 2 jobs as do many of my colleagues just to put food on the table.

Yes, I agree that in some sections there are individuals that do very little but I have worked in the Private Sector also and there are equally some lazy people there too.

I agree 100% with the strike tomorrow.

Kazabell, I said that in response to an earlier poster who claimed that public sector workers e.g. teachers/nurses were pretty much tied to the public sector because there were far fewer opportunities for this work in the private sector. It may be the case that there are fewer private employment opportunities, but I still feel that those people cannot demand to keep the status quo as regards pensions. There are plenty of people in the private sector with few employment opportunities - particularly if what they do is very specialised. That doesn't stop private companies changing the goalposts for their workers, changing pension terms and wages....

Clearly, you are in the advantageous position of having qualifications which would give you reasonable employment opportunities in both the public and private sector. Therefore, if you are so unhappy with what is on the table in terms of your pension, you could always compare what other employment opportunities in the private sector have to offer. In an ideal world, it would be great if there was plenty of money to go round....actually, there probably is plenty of money in someone's pockets...but it's not going round...your average worker hasn't got it...and it's not in the treasury coffers!

And I did not accuse anyone of being lazy - I never made reference to this at all. I am well aware that there is dead wood in all sectors...but since you get me onto this subject, perhaps it is sometimes easier to get rid of it in the private sector.

sheffield_lad

Kazzabell80 wrote: »

So who will be paying your pension when you retire?

Answer, I expect nobody will be paying a pension when I retire, anyone who bothers to save (me), will have no way or receiving a state pension, what I will probably do is sell my house (mortgage ends when I am 67), and rent living off the assett (house).