Public Sector Pension Strikes – A JOKE !

sheffield_lad

CLAPTON wrote: »

the figures don't show the pensions are unaffordable;
they show that companies can make more profit the lower their pension contribution; exactly the same way they cheat and behave badly whenever the opportunity arises if it enhances profits and they can get away with it.

which is why we should be looking at all pension provision and devise a fair and equitable scheme for all

I know then lets all strike, lets show them just like Greece and Portugal?

Yeah righ, we know they are unaffordable most public sector workers know it everyone else has known it for years.

Just like Greece & Portugal its pointless, if you get your way and the gov scrap the proposals how long do you think it would be for and how much worse would it be later.

WAKE up, head out of sand PC people

The_Angry_Jock

cheeko830 wrote: »

I will add this though - read this and make your own mind up.
www.tuc.org.uk/extras/publicsectorpensions.pdf

Thanks for that, leave it to union propaganda to damage your cause, well done :beer:

JohnB47

Oh this is great. But we need more anger against public sector workers! Morer hatred! More angst!

Look - just over there. Polititians and bankers are just peeping their heads out from their cushioned bunkers, wondering if we're really distracted enough to let them get away with their own generous pension uprating rules or yearly bonouses, but they wonder if we're distracted enough. Perhaps they need to stoke the hate boiler a bit more - "you must all hate public sector workers! Strikes are all the fault of workers! Remember we're all in this together, (as long as my pension or bonous is OK that is)".

So come on public sector worker haters, you can do better than this - more personal insults, more bias, more childishly over simplified arguments. The polititians and bankers are almost there!

The_Angry_Jock

JohnB47 wrote: »

more personal insults, more bias, more childishly over simplified arguments. The polititians and bankers are almost there!

Is this irony?

CLAPTON

howee wrote: »

I know then lets all strike, lets show them just like Greece and Portugal?

Yeah righ, we know they are unaffordable most public sector workers know it everyone else has known it for years.

Just like Greece & Portugal its pointless, if you get your way and the gov scrap the proposals how long do you think it would be for and how much worse would it be later.

WAKE up, head out of sand PC people

1.9% of GDP falling to about 1.4% of gdp is NOT unaffordable; it may be relatively unfair but it's NOt unaffordable
and no it doesn't make us like greece or portugal


by all means explain why you think that 1.4% of gdp is unaffordable

real1314

howee wrote: »

What you are really saying is,

I am in the public sector, I am different to you I can retire early, I am not interested in the fact you the private sector worker have to work longer. I have to lift patients or teach children I cant do this when I am old but I dont care if your in a manual job its your lookout

I want you the tax payer to pay for my pension short fall, I don't care that some of you don't have a pension

I don't care that my pension is better than your or that in fairness you should not subsidse mine.

Who cares if the youth will pay more due to debt, anyway I am alright Jack lets decide all this after 'I' retire

Nice to see we are in it together,

Director's Pensions are higher than anything in the public sector.

Yet the directors via the CBI are saying public sector pensions are unaffordable.

A bit like Pickles calling people for being overweight?

Private Sector unaffordable pensions don't seem to worry all the private sector workers on here. Ironic. :cool:

Old_Slaphead

CLAPTON wrote: »

which is why we should be looking at all pension provision and devise a fair and equitable scheme for all

Any suggestions on how it can ber done C ?

jamesd

There's little reason for public sector people to be worried about private sector pensions because the modern private sector ones adjust to life expectancy changes without the need for great fuss and strikes to get the job done.

A fair and equitable scheme is easy enough - migrate to fully funded and defined contribution schemes for everyone. Will take a while for the public sector ones that aren't currently fully funded but now's a better chance than there will be for a while because the relatively large baby boomer generation is still working and able to pay the higher costs for a while longer yet. Would probably take some splitting of benefits so part can be defined benefit and part defined contribution to avoid a big transient bulge in current year spending. The private sector has already mostly done this for new employees and has been that way for a while now.

FATBALLZ

People with public sector pensions are the 1%.

sheffield_lad

FATBALLZ wrote: »

People with public sector pensions are the 1%.

Its no good mate we can tell them until we are blue in the face but they won't accept change and the need for it.

They are happy for the rest of us to pay for it though, have no thought about the youth.

To them debt is the answer (long live Gordon lol), he would borrow er sort this out. Who cares what happens when I am 60 you can do what you want them.

Screw you I am all right Jack

PS, lets blame it on the bankers, politicians, and energy company's yeah its them lot not us screwing the tax payer lol